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☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
It’s not a given, because perhaps there could be regression, but it’s not a very ambitious goal to merely maintain the same rate.
January 21, 2021 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm in reply to: Explain why you were sure Trump would get a second term even after the election. #1941342☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCharlie, you are overlooking Warp Speed.
Yes, he messed up on messaging, but overall I think saved more lives than he cost.
You make it sound like he’s responsible for all 400,000 deaths, as if nobody would have died of we had a different president, which is totally disingenuous of you.
And I don’t like (understatement) how he acted after the election, but it doesn’t negate all the good he did. Only someone with a huge liberal bias like you would ignore all of the positives.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantwhy aren’t you taking this seriously.
Taking what seriously?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantJackk, I’m impressed.
January 21, 2021 9:43 am at 9:43 am in reply to: The Eldest Oyster: Herd Immunity vs. Herd Mentality #1941094☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI have no problem answering – Q anon are a bunch of loonies and yes, we landed on the moon – but the fact that you even ask is a deflection.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantOrange
January 21, 2021 1:43 am at 1:43 am in reply to: Explain why you were sure Trump would get a second term even after the election. #1940989☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCan you answer why any religious person could ever support a rasha like Trump?
We didn’t vote for tzaddik. We voted for the person who would implement the best policies.
Not that Biden is exactly a lamed vovnik himself.
January 21, 2021 1:40 am at 1:40 am in reply to: Explain why you were sure Trump would get a second term even after the election. #1940988☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMost Jews voted for Biden.
Who cares
Most frum Jews in my neighborhood voted for Biden.
Who cares
January 20, 2021 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm in reply to: The Eldest Oyster: Herd Immunity vs. Herd Mentality #1940900☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantFor some reason, although your positions on Covid are basically reasonable, the way you argue them, with made up facts, distortions of others’ statements, and not really addressing or listening to what others are saying, you weaken your position immensely.
January 20, 2021 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm in reply to: The Eldest Oyster: Herd Immunity vs. Herd Mentality #1940894☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantthe dangers of the vaccine pale in comparison to the dangers of allowing COVID-19 to continue unchecked.
That might very well be true but it hasn’t been proven.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI certainly hope CA is right. If not, though…
1) Sure, why not?
2) If he’s not convicted in the Senate, it’s very likely he’ll run again. Whether he’ll win would probably depend on how the country is doing then.
January 20, 2021 9:11 pm at 9:11 pm in reply to: The Eldest Oyster: Herd Immunity vs. Herd Mentality #1940890☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBefore I respond to that, can I ask a few unrelated question?
You can ask, it’s a free country, you’re allowed to dodge the comment and pretend you didn’t.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAnytime someone can’t find a way to argue an anti Trump opinion, they go straight to the response, “there you go, listening to the left wing media, blah blah blah”.
If the debate is about facts, and the source is the media, then it’s a fair argument.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI think that Trump pardoned himself and family privately, so when necessary, he will be able to refer to it.
Before or after he declared martial law?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantTo answer the OP, yes, I still would have voted for him.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSince there is considerable uncertainty and disagreement among legal scholars as to whether the Trumpkopf can pardon himself, he will likely resign the morning of January 20th, fly back to Mar a Lago, and while he is in the air, President (for 3 hours) Pence will issue a full and complete pardon of the FORMER President.
That prediction didn’t play out too well.
January 20, 2021 3:18 pm at 3:18 pm in reply to: Thank You Donald Trump, the Jews’ Best Friend! #1940752☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBiden appoints Jews in his cabinet, Blinken and Yellin.
As opposed to Trump who doesn’t want to have anything to do with Jews?
January 20, 2021 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm in reply to: Thank You Donald Trump, the Jews’ Best Friend! #1940750☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe Proud Boys, and lots of white supremist anti-Semitic groups, think Trump supports them. You Jews who think Trump is your friend, and those anti-Semites, cannot both be right.
Why would I care what they think? If they think Trump hates Jews they’re just delusional.
January 20, 2021 2:57 pm at 2:57 pm in reply to: Frum Man Has “Credible Information” That Trump Will Remain President #1940746☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI am so glad I stocked up on pasta and tuna. I really hope this martial law is over before Pesach.
January 20, 2021 8:33 am at 8:33 am in reply to: The Eldest Oyster: Herd Immunity vs. Herd Mentality #1940570☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAvereimele, you are pulling the same old schtick of ignoring my main point to focus on some narische technical inaccuracies. Fine I was wrong about Eretz Yisroel. Nu, what about the vaccination program?
I sure hope the people doing research on the vaccines didn’t make such “narische technical inaccuracies”.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThat is a big difference and argues for vaccinating 60something minorities before 70something whites
Ok, so you’re suggesting a combination of variables be taken into account.
As long as the goal is to save the most lives, I’m all for it.
Agav, I’m also in favor of prioritizing those at higher risk because they’re smokers. I’m not at all advocating for smoking, but saving lives should be the goal, not punishing people.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantyou are discussing as if there is perfect data to decide what is better and there is a perfect way to implement a policy.
Not at all. I’m discussing whether to prioritize minorities in theory even if that would cost more lives. I’m not necessarily disagreeing that it might actually save lives.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBasically, whoever said that is cherry picking a statistic which would make one think Trump won, although it does not really indicate that he did.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIs this true, if so how could he lose?
The election is not won by the victor of most counties…
So if more populous counties tend towards Biden (which makes sense, since urban areas tend to be Democrat-leaning), the overall vote could still go to Biden.
January 19, 2021 11:12 am at 11:12 am in reply to: The Eldest Oyster: Herd Immunity vs. Herd Mentality #1940241☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI don’t think a pregnant or nursing 28 year old with no antibodies should rush to get it.
I understand the concern, but isn’t covid a concern too?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI will once again quote Schmidt:
“Ethical, epidemiological, and economic reasons demand that rationing approaches give priority to groups who have been structurally and historically disadvantaged, even if this means that overall life years gained may be lower.”
(Whether we should measure in life years gained or number of lives saved is also something I disagree with him about, but that’s perhaps a different discussion).
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCharlie, you are not arguing with my answer, you are denying the question.
You are claiming prioritizing minorities will save lives. If that is true, then I agree that they should be vaccinated first.
The question was should they be vaccinated first even if that policy will cost lives. So I ask once again: do you agree with that?
It’s not a moot point, because there are experts who say prioritizing minorities over older people will cost lives, yet some think it should be done anyway.
January 19, 2021 9:11 am at 9:11 am in reply to: The Eldest Oyster: Herd Immunity vs. Herd Mentality #1940194☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI think anyone with antibodies should wait, and anybody without antibodies should get it as soon as they can.
I don’t understand why this isn’t the standard recommendation.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAAQ is right. If we are already giving a million doses per day, 100 million doses in 100 days isn’t a very ambitious goal.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantTo Daas Yochid. And you think there is something wrong with taking account of segments of the population who don’t have good access to health services and who have suffered a disproportionately high rate of infection and death?
If that will save lives, no. If it will cost lives, yes.
They are advocating for prioritizing minorities for the sake of social justice even if it will cost lives.
Don’t you agree that there is something wrong with that?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYou are responding to the wrong question.
The question was, “How would we know if there was fraud?”
The question you are answering is, “How do we know that there was no fraud?”
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantVaccine Rationing and the Urgency of Social Justice in the Covid‐19 Response
HARALD SCHMIDTAdditional article information
Abstract
The Covid‐19 pandemic needs to be considered from two perspectives simultaneously. First, there are questions about which policies are most effective and fair in the here and now, as the pandemic unfolds. These polices concern, for example, who should receive priority in being tested, how to implement contact tracing, or how to decide who should get ventilators or vaccines when not all can. Second, it is imperative to anticipate the medium‐ and longer‐term consequences that these policies have. The case of vaccine rationing is particularly instructive. Ethical, epidemiological, and economic reasons demand that rationing approaches give priority to groups who have been structurally and historically disadvantaged, even if this means that overall life years gained may be lower.☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantGH, you’re being careful to not say the priority should be based on social justice, but official CDC recommendations barely hide that it’s a consideration.
From the CDC website:
The recommendations were made with these goals in mind:
Decrease death and serious disease as much as possible.
Preserve functioning of society.
Reduce the extra burden COVID-19 is having on people already facing disparities.☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantwith the exception of current smokers since they show disregard for their own health.
What about diabetics? Same thing?
January 17, 2021 4:24 pm at 4:24 pm in reply to: Last Chance for Trump: accept responsibility for Jan/6 violence; alologize for f #1939585☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYou know it won’t happen, but anyhow, why is it his last chance? Do you think he can’t once he’s no longer president?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDy,
I think that Hashem knows a persons true motivation and his past precedent solidifies that (if a person wants to give tzedakah at any opportunity possible)
Of course He knows (even without past precedent). It was a rhetorical question. I think the person buying the lottery ticket “l’shem shomayim” is fooling himself.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAsking Hashem to let you win so you can help mosdos, tzedakah etc…. is asking to be zoche to be a great shaliach MItzvah.
There are lots of wonderful mitzvos. You are suggesting we ask for the zechus to be able to perform one which allows us to keep 10% of hundreds of millions of dollars, and expect Hashem to be fooled ch”v into thinking it’s l’shem shomayim?
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant@ Participant,
The first song on the first Uncle Moishy record.
January 17, 2021 2:22 am at 2:22 am in reply to: Can you erase my messages I mean your messages, I mean my… #1939398☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantNow do you understand the concept of how some things are meant to be momentary but we use texting which is a great way to send material, but the drawback is that its saved. Would that also be an “odd” request on your part to ask them to delete it?
Yes, it would be odd.
January 17, 2021 2:22 am at 2:22 am in reply to: Can you erase my messages I mean your messages, I mean my… #1939396☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhat if you sent someone a funny video of yourself to cheer them up for the moment they were sad, but now it is saved forever and can possibly circulate elsewhere?
You should have asked not to forward it. Even if you didn’t, it’s fair to ask later on not to forward it. That’s not the same thing as asking to delete it.
January 17, 2021 2:22 am at 2:22 am in reply to: Can you erase my messages I mean your messages, I mean my… #1939395☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBut its not about who owns it, its the fact that its your content.
No, it’s not your content. Rephrasing “you own it” to “it’s your content” doesn’t suddenly make it true.
January 17, 2021 2:21 am at 2:21 am in reply to: Can you erase my messages I mean your messages, I mean my… #1939392☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantyes you dont own the messages which are on the other phone, however who does own them?
Nobody
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhy is it about having kids? It’s either science based or it isn’t
I’m not sure what you mean by science based. I don’t think weighing the potential risks of covid vs. the damage done to children when they are deprived of school is a scientific question. I think someone with kids might be able to appreciate the second side of the equation better than someone who doesn’t.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAAQ, that whole discussion has no bearing on this question.
Here, you didn’t create covid.
Even if in the past you were irresponsible for not minimizing your exposure, that has no bearing on the vaccine, which prevents one from getting dangerously ill from a future exposure.
The discussion you referred to might apply to a person who intentionally or through irresponsibility got very sick from covid and survived. Applying it to the vaccine doesn’t make sense, as Syag seemed to say.
January 14, 2021 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm in reply to: Can you erase my messages I mean your messages, I mean my… #1938718☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant-quite simple, ubiquitin wanted to share with us that he can only think dirty.
No. You brought that up, not Ubiquitin
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAn imam a priest and a rabbit go to donate blood. The rabbit says, “I think I’m a typo”.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAsk New York that question in regards to the vaccine, teachers can get it but grocery store employees can’t (yet)
They can. From the NYC vaccine finder site:
“Who can get vaccinated right now?
Currently, the vaccine is being provided to people 65 and older, teachers and education workers, first responders, public safety workers, public transit workers, grocery store workers, healthcare providers and staff with direct patient contact, emergency responders, staff at COVID-19 testing and vaccination locations, home health aides, and long-term care staff and residents among others. Click here for more details on the groups currently eligible for the COVID-19 vaccine.”January 13, 2021 8:51 am at 8:51 am in reply to: Can you erase my messages I mean your messages, I mean my… #1938305☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantRegarding the OP, I don’t think you “own” the messages you’ve sent, and I think it’s a bit odd to even request they be deleted, but it might be appropriate to tell the person you sent it to that in retrospect, you wish you hadn’t sent it.
January 13, 2021 8:50 am at 8:50 am in reply to: Can you erase my messages I mean your messages, I mean my… #1938304☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantUgh, why did this conversation turn nasty?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhy are grocery store workers “essential” when it comes to lockdowns but not when it comes to vaccinations?
Who says they aren’t?
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