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  • in reply to: Do words of hate matter? It’s just words or is it sinister? #1722219
    LerntminTayrah
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    Hateful speech is wrong. Daas Torah is ok. If someone points out that talking during chazaras hashatz is gadol avono mineso and you like talking during chazaras hashatz, that’s not hate.

    in reply to: Spiritual Level of Rare vs. Well Done Steak #1722198
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    the gemara refers to roasting as tikun, and maachel bar drusai as food eaten by thieves who didn’t have time to prepare their food. That said ,we do find the idea of “oomtza”, raw meat chewed on by people. And there is a concept call mitztameik vera lo, that food is overcooked.

    in reply to: In Chad Gadya – HKBH was “wrong” #1722192
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    Rebbetzin, the books were listed in the secular court lawsuits against Barry Gourarie celebrated by the song “didan natzach”. It’s all in the transcripts.

    If they have the manuscript proving the early chad gadya had an extra verse , then the person who said it is irrelevant.

    in reply to: Chabad hate on YWN? #1722191
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    I wouldn’t call it hate as all Jews are loved, even the mistaken Jews. But part of veahavta is helping Jews go on the correct derech. Chabad believes in this, and so does the litvish, who view violations of the 13 ikkarim as serious. It’s no different than the “snag bashing” on Lubavitch sites which is just pointing out how the snags are wrong for rejecting your moshiach like we do with Yeshu hanotzri.

    in reply to: Difference between Chabad and everyone else? #1721709
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    The litvish follow the 13 ikkarim. The Rebbe said you don’t have to since a Rebe is the essense of G-d in a human body and it’s ok to pray to a Rebbe (as per 1979 sicha)

    in reply to: In Chad Gadya – HKBH was “wrong” #1721708
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    The original song had the extra lyric. Later on it didn’t. Rebbetzin, not sure what your big issue is with quoting this maskil as you are pro-Lubavitch and the previous Rebbe’s library included Communist books.

    The maskil was meisiach lefi tumo. The point is that it’s enough to show that the question has no basis.

    in reply to: Difference between Chabad and everyone else? #1721269
    LerntminTayrah
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    Evryone else follows the Rambams’ 13 ikkarim.

    in reply to: In Chad Gadya – HKBH was “wrong” #1719332
    LerntminTayrah
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    A blogger who calls himself Fred McDowell shared that original recently.
    Here is what he says 9 years ago:
    The Yiddish linguist Chone Shmeruk discovered a 15th century manuscript of the song in Aramaic and German-Yiddish. As a point of interest, Shmeruk believed he was able to demonstrate that the Yiddish was the original, and the Aramaic the translation. I haven’t seen his paper, nor do I possess the skills necessary to form an opinion. Below is a highly interesting variant stanza as it appears in Shmeruk’s 15th century manuscript:

    ואתא עכברא דאכל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא
    דא קאם מייזליין און עשיט דז זיקליין דש קאפיט דז אלט וועטירליין אום צוייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין איין ציקליין
    And along came the mouse that ate the goat that Father bought for two pennies, One Little Kid, One Little Kid

    in reply to: How do I stop Yeshiva World News from reporting the news? #1719168
    LerntminTayrah
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    So YWN now is the same as any other lishna bisha blog. It’s all news so it’s ok.

    in reply to: What brocho is hydroponic lettuce #1719050
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    The future of produce is vertical farming, with everything hydroponically grown and bug-free.

    in reply to: In Chad Gadya – HKBH was “wrong” #1718950
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    The question never gets started.
    The original chad gadya from the 1500’s had a rodent eating the goat. One extra verse and the whole cheshbon is different.
    ד גדיא חד גדיא
    ואתא עכברא דאכל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חדיא גדיא.

    דא קאם דז מייזליין אונ עשיט דז ציקליין דש קאפֿיט דז אלט וועטירליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין. ציקליין איין ציקליין.

    ואתא שונרא דנשיך לעכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדי’

    דא קאם דש קֶצליין אונ’ עשיט דז מייזליין דז דיא האט געשין דש ציקליין דז דא קאפיט דז אלט וואטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין. איין צ<יקליין> איין ציקליין.

    ואתא כלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכיל לעכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא.

    דא קאם דש הינטליין אונ’ ביישיט דז קעציליין דז עשיט דז מייזליין דז דא האט געשין דז ציקליין דז דיא קאפֿיט דז אלט וואטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין איין ציקליין

    ואתא מקלא ומכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכל עכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא.

    דא קאם דש שטעקליין אונ’ שלוּג דז הינטליין דז דא ביש דז קעציליין דז דא האט געשין דז מייזליין דש דא האט אויף געשין דז ציקליין דש דא האט גיקויפֿט דז אלט וועטירליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין. איין ציקליין. איין ציקליין.

    ואתא נורא ואוקיד למקלא דמכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכיל עכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא. חד גדיא.

    דא קאם דז פייערליין אונ’ ווער ברעניט דז שטעקליין דז דיא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין אונ’ דז דיא האט גיבישן דז קעציליין : אונ’ דז דא האט געשין דז מייזליין אונ’ דז דיא האט געשין דז ציקליין דז דיא האט גיקויפֿט דז אלט וועטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין. איין ציקליין.

    ואתא מיא ומכווא לנורא דאוקיד מקלא דמכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכיל עכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא. חד גדיא.

    דא קאם דז וואשרליין אונ’ ווער לעשיט דז ווייערליין דז דיא האט ווער ברענט דז שטעקליין דז דיא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין דז דיא האט גיבישן דז קעציליין דז דיא האט געשין דז מייזליין דז דיא האט געשין <דז> ציקליין דז דיא האט גיקאפֿט דז אלט וועטירליין. אום צווייא פפעניגליין. איין ציקליין. איין ציקליין.

    ואתא תורא ושתא למיא דמכווא לנורא דאוקיד מקלא דמכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכיל עכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא.

    דא קאם דז עקשליין אונ’ טרינקט דז וואשרליין דז ווער לעשיט דז ווייערליין דז דיא האט ווער ברענט דז שטעקליין דז דיא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין דז דיא האט גיבישן דז קעציליין דז דיא האט געשן דז מייזליין דז דיא האט געשן דז ציקליין דז קאפֿיט דז אלט וועטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין. איין ציקליין.

    ואתא שחטא ושחט לתורא דשתא מיא דמכווא לנורא ואוקידמקלא דמכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכיל עכברא דאכיל. גדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדי’ חד גדיא

    דא קאם דז גיהרגיט שוחטליין אונ’ שעכטיט דז עקשליין דז דא האט גיטרונקן דש וועשרליין דז דא האט ווער לעשט דז ווייערליין דז דיא האט ווער ברענט דז שטעקליין דז דיא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין דז דיא האט גיבישן דז קעציליין דז דא האט געשן דז מייזליין דז דא האט געשן דז ציקליין דז דא האט גיקאפֿט דז גיהרגיט וועטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין. איין ציקליין

    ואתא מלאך המות ושחט לשחטא דשחט לתורא דשתא מיא דמכווא לנורא דאוקיד מקלא דמכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכל עכברא דאכיל גדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא.

    דא קאם דער מלאך המות אונ’ שעֵכטיט דעם שוכט דער דא האט גישעכט דען אקשן אונ’ דער דא האט גיטרונקין דז וואשר אונ’ דז דא האט ווער לעשט דז ווייער דז דא האט ווער ברענט דז שטעקליין אונ’ דז דא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין אונ’ דז דא האט גיבישן דז קעצליין אונ’ דז דא האט געשן דז מייזליין אונ’ דז דא האט געשן דז ציקליין דז דא האט קאפֿט דז גיהרגיט וועטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין איין ציקליין.

    ואתא קודשא בריך הוא. ושחט למלאך המות. דשחט לשחטא דשחט לתורא. דשתא למיא. דמכווא נורא. דאוקיד מקלא דמכא כלבא דנשיך שונרא דאכיל עכברא דאכיל גדיא דזבין. אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא.

    דא קאם הקבה אונ’ שעכטיט דען מלאך המות דער דא האט גישעכט דז גיהרגיט שוחטליין דז דא האט גישעכט דז עקשליין דז דא האט גיטרונקן דז וואשרליין דז דא האט ווער לעשט דז ווייערליין דז דא האט ווער ברענט דז שטעקליין דז דא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין דז דא האט גיבישן דז קעצליין דז דא האט געשן דז מייזליין דז דא האט געשן דז ציקליין דז האט גיקאפֿט דז גיהרגיט וועטרליין איין ציקליין איין ציקליין

    חסל סידור פסח

    כהלכתו

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1716716
    LerntminTayrah
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    Again, the facts on the ground show what was meant or how it’s interpreted. As per the gedoilim, anyone who says yechi is clearly an apikoires which indicates that the atzmus sicha is understood peshuto kemashmao that you can daven to the Rebbe like it says kind of explicitly there. But I admire your leiv tov.

    in reply to: Did YWN cave to pressure and remove a news item? #1715523
    LerntminTayrah
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    Rav Aharon Kotler zt”l was famous for his kanaus. Rav Eya Svei zt”l kept up his mesoireh, and it is good to see the tzurva meirabanans of Lakewood today keeping the same mesoireh.

    I disagree with it but I appreciate both sides.

    in reply to: Which mesivta should i send my 8th grade son to? #1715516
    LerntminTayrah
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    Kids do better in places they want to attend.

    in reply to: Do I owe my neighbor kosher meat or treif meat? #1713859
    LerntminTayrah
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    The Yoreh Deah shaila is separate from the choshen mishpat.

    Not sure your psak in the yoreh deah part is correct. It takes a while for that one pound to fall into the pot, and while it falls you might have chaticha naasis neveila. Plus one pound of meat is difficult to get mixed in so quickly so it’s be’en, and you are mechuyav to remove what’s be’en.

    LerntminTayrah
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    Secular studies don’t exist in eretz yisroel in the yeshivas, and they strongly resist it. Why?

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1713024
    LerntminTayrah
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    I’m starting to get the impression that the yeshiva Reshivish Rockstar is rocking is in morristown.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1713000
    LerntminTayrah
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    YRS, the atzmus sicha is posted above, and we have the Rambam zt”l, Rav Shach zt”l and the rest to help us understand that peshuto kemashmao. There’s no “chassidus” exception in the ikkarim. You can check them yourself.
    But what kind of yeshivish rockstar isn’t familiar with the litvish gedoilim?

    LerntminTayrah
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    The #1 rule of debating is to understand your opponent’s viewpoint so you can refute it.

    Many yeshivas today clearly have secular studies tzu yoitzei zayn, where they are only doing it mitaam hagezeira but clearly don’t feel it’s important. This is just another step in that direction.
    I disagree, but I understand their viewpoint. The kids will suffer but they suffered in Europe too and the gedoilim still felt it important.

    I believe the Lubavitch yeshiva Oholei Torah is run like this as well.

    LerntminTayrah
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    Health, I am not Joseph. The mods can back me up on this. I went to college, and want my kids to get a good secular education as well. I’m just being intellectually honest though. There is a reason why the litvish chadorim in Eretz Yisroel don’t have secular studies. Again, just read Marc Shapiro’s book, don’t rely on me.
    You can also find similar quotes throughout the new thick biography of Reb Baruch Ber zt”l.

    in reply to: Always Wearing a Hat When Outdoors #1712749
    LerntminTayrah
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    Yeshivish roshei yeshiva will tell you there is an inyan, but it’s not supported by the mishna brura. Efsher it’s mitaam minhag.

    in reply to: Who to visit first Rebbe or kosel #1712747
    LerntminTayrah
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    Rebbe of course. Torah>tourism

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1712329
    LerntminTayrah
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    I read what you wrote, and disagree. Yeshivish people are too busy learning to understand the source of the Chabad meshugas. They can see the toitzaois but not the ikkar shoiresh poireh roish velaana because why should they spend hours understanding Chabad when they can spend the same time horoven on a ketzois?

    LerntminTayrah
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    I hate to defend Joseph but he’s probably correct on these quotes. We have accepted secular studies so we don’t think about them but it’s not so pashut.
    According to Marc Shapiro’s book on the Seridei Eish, even in Europe there was a stratification between the educated and the uneducated. the shuls were stratified based on skill level , which is why you find things like the tailors’ shul or the wagon drivers’ shul. But even in Europe they insisted on no secular studies, even though it meant poverty.

    in reply to: Always Wearing a Hat When Outdoors #1712138
    LerntminTayrah
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    The mishna brura in siman 91 says that now that we wear a hat in the streets, we should wear one for davening. The mashmaos is that 1. they didn’t always wear one in the street 2. When you don’t wear one in the street you don’t need to wear one during davening.

    LerntminTayrah
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    I want my kids to have a good secular education. On the other hand, many gedoilim were against any secular studies whatsoever. The malach, Rav Levine zt”l, left Lubavitch after catching the Riyatz with a secular book. His followers in Torah Vodaas refused to go to secular studies and were expelled in 1935. There’s a reason they don’t have them in the chadorim and yeshivos ketanos in Eretz Yisroel.

    I hear both tzedadim.

    in reply to: Mesivta run by a Godol but not necessarily a “top” yeshiva #1712120
    LerntminTayrah
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    In other words, you are looking for a good yeshivish place for bachurim who aren’t aleph bochurim but aren’t failures.
    He might do well in smaller yeshivas.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1711042
    LerntminTayrah
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    Neville: “those who believe the Rebbe dies and is still moshiach are making a mistake but aren’t apikorsim, unlike the ones who say he’s alive.”

    Source for this distinction? Why would it be worse to believe he’s alive and hiding somewhere?
    Crazy? Yes. But, I don’t see why it’s halachically worse.

    Nevile, The source for that is both Rav Menashe Klein zt”l and yblc”t Rav Aharon Feldman shlita. As mentioned, many do take the atzmus thing literally, where the Rebbe is c”v “G-d in human form”. Many don’t Baruch Hashem, though how they deal with the Rebbe saying “it’s not a problem asking to Rebbe instead of Hashem because he’s the essence of G-d in a human body” is beyond me.

    Almost all Lubavitchers believe the Rebbe is moshiach. If you believe he died, then you believe he’s moshiach but an ordinary human being. If you call him alive, you are ascribing to him deity-like powers to evade death beyond mere mortals. Both of those sources can be found by googling.

    in reply to: Arranged Marriages #1710125
    LerntminTayrah
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    I’m fully aware of his witty pun. But the Torah is not for witty puns.

    in reply to: Arranged Marriages #1709922
    LerntminTayrah
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    Arranged marriages work when the person you are looking for isn’t supposed to be your soulmate, just play the role of momme to your tatte.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1709921
    LerntminTayrah
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    Lubavitch would do itself a favor if it would name a new Rebbe, even if they say it’s just a temporary rebbe until the real one returns.

    in reply to: Arranged Marriages #1709783
    LerntminTayrah
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    There’s a famous maaseh about the Satmar Rebbe speaking with Rav Bick. The Satmar Rebbe was upset tha tcouples were meeting 8 times before getting engaged instead of 2. Rav Bick told him, “you say 2 because you’re a mesader kiddushin. I say 8 because I’m a mesader gittin”

    in reply to: Donald Trump should not be the President of the United States #1709779
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    Trump is a tafsar- a tipesh sar. Not the first, won’t be the last.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1709778
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    yehoshuaahron: “Rav Solovechik … learned the first Sichos and mamor of The Rebbe when he took on the Nesius where the Rebbe Zt’l says explicitly The Fridiker Rebbe will take us out of galus (after his histalkus) and speaks of the Zohar quoted about Atzmus.”

    So wait a second. If the Rebbe said his father-in-law is moshiach, how can the whole of Lubavitch contradict him and say the Rebbe himself is moshiach?!

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1709670
    LerntminTayrah
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    There’s a famous klal in psak- you don’t go after aggadeta. The gemara discussing the idea that moshiach can be from the dead is just as relevant as the gemara saying there is no moshiach anymore. Shkoyach on your abarbenel, but mainstream Judaism rejected that idea years ago. I know it’s much easier to say the Rebbe didn’t die, which is why many are forced to say such nonsense.

    But, like Rav Aharon Feldman shlit”a said, those who believe the Rebbe dies and is still moshiach are making a mistake but aren’t apikorsim, unlike the ones who say he’s alive. So a tip of the hat for being within the fold. Kemoscha yirbu beLubavitch.

    in reply to: Donald Trump should not be the President of the United States #1709471
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    If Hashem didn’t want him to be president, Hashem would put an end to Trump. Harbei shluchim lamakom.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1709473
    LerntminTayrah
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    The Rambam clearly didn’t learn that gemara as halacha lemaaseh. The Abarbanel isn’t a poseik. So unless you have someone on the stature of the Rambam saying moshiach can come from the dead, any gemara hava aminas are irrelevant.

    Nobody was more emphatic about that than the Chabad of my youth. Moshiach has to be alive.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1709272
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    I wonder what is must have been like for Chabadskers in their 40’s and 50’s, who got used to the idea of “Every generation has a living moshiach” to suddenly have to drop everything and switch to “dead people can be moshiach” or “Dead people are still living”. Like serious ouch time.

    I do question how successful Chabad is being “mekareiv” other frum Jews. Back when the Rebbe was living they got many normal frum Jews to say “maybe the Rebbe is moshiach”. Now it only appeals to die-hards. The best they can do is sell the Rebbe as a tzaddik whose kever is worth going to.

    in reply to: Donald Trump should not be the President of the United States #1709364
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    RebYidd, how can you suggest Ivanka should be president? Melech velo malka

    in reply to: Donald Trump should not be the President of the United States #1709271
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    Hashem obviously wanted him to be president, so what does the OP mean by “shouldn’t”?
    Hashem also wanted Obama to be president before Trump.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1708746
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    AUO, Chabad clearly and explicitly rejected the idea of moshiach being dead for years. Then the Rebbe died and suddenly this is Chabad belief?

    The Rambam clearly rejects it as well. Chabad does Rambam Yomi and the Rebbe considered the Rambam so authoritative that the distinctive Chbad menorah was based on the Rambam illustration.
    Yes, there are a few sources for it. But it wasn’t mainstream, and the Mechaber clearly stopped believing in Shlomo Molcho once the Christians killed him.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1707841
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    The Lubavitcher Rebbe spent ten years in Berlin and Sarbonne attending various universities. Didn’t end up wqith much to show for it, according to recent research by Menachem Friedman. He was in Berlin at the same time as Rav Hutner zt”l and Rav YB Solovotechik zt”l. In the book “Thinking aloud”. someone asked Rav YB Soloveitchik zt”l if it’s true the Rebbe learned tehillim all day. He replied, “First ask me if he wore a yarmulke”. The Rebbe didn’t while in university, as per the custom of the Orthodox Jews in college. This doesn’t make him a bad person, but not the background of a future messiah.
    The Mechaber zt”l, who got a mention in this thread, stood behind the messianic candidacy of Shlomo Molcho. But he didn’t think his own rabbeim were moshiach. Lubavitchers think the Rebbe was moshiach because the Rebbe said so in his “basi legani” maamar, and then everything had to be distorted to fit it in.
    Lubavitch needs a Shaul of Tarshish type to keep klal yisroel away, though they are doing a good job themselves with this yechi nonsense and saying Der Rebbe Vet helfn. Klal yisroel knows a Christianity clone when they see one.

    in reply to: How Shidduchim became a beauty pageant contest. #1707467
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    Taanis 25b implies that people were always into looks

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1706838
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    His generation ended 25 years ago. Single girls from when he died are now bubbies. You are now having the second generation of Lubavitchers who only know the Rebbe as an oyhel, not as a real person.
    At some point they need to accept that they got played and move on with the next Rebbe.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1706830
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    Both alive and dead at the same time. Schrodinger’s Rebbe

    in reply to: Going t Kever Rochel – “Mama Rochel helf mir” #1706647
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    This is an old machlokes. The Rema paskens you don’t ask the dead person to do anything for you, and the gemera in Sota (34?) about Kaleiv asking the avos to pray for him is agaddateda.
    The Pri Megadim defends it and says it’s not a violation of the 5th ikkar because they are asking him to intercede with Hashem. The dead person isn’t all-powerful and isn’t Hashem in a human body.

    The rebbe’s atzmus sicha said you can directly daven to a rebbe because he’s Hashem in a human body. That is NOT what the pri megadim said. That is the person in the kever as a god.
    Major difference.
    Though litvaks hold like the Rema and do neither. We see how innocent practices become avoda zara r”l

    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    Lubavitch was a different Lubavitch before the 7th Rebbe.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1706641
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    Occam’s Razor says go by the simplest explanation.

    For those who insist modern Lubavitch ISN’T Avoda zara:
    If chas veshalom it WAS, what would it be doing differently from today?

    We already established that people daven to the Rebbe, based on the atzmus sicha.
    While many don’t, the Rebbe said it’s ok so it’s just a question of personal preference.
    We already established that people say “Der Rebbe vet helfn” instead of “Der Eibishter vet helfn”. So whether or not they daven. they still speak of the Rebbe as all-powerful.
    They post pictures of the Rebbe everywhere.
    They say he’s alive.
    They say he couldn’t make a mistake.
    They say everything he touched has “Elokus”

    We have a slew of justifications and twisted and distorted gemaras to defend every one of these distortions of the mesorah, but none of these were part of klal yisroel until the Rebbe died.

    Rav Shach zt”l couldn’t be fooled, though I was. I thought his use of avoda zara was extreme. I depserately wanted him to be wrong.
    Daas chachomim hepech midaas baalabattim. He was right, I was wrong. I wish it wasn’t so.

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1706282
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    I would almost buy these justifications for deification IF it was done when the most recent Lubavitcher Rebbe was alive, and all chassidim did it. However, all of this cropped up after the most recent Lubavitcher Rebbe died, and these are nothing but post-facto distortions and justifications for deification that go against the mesorah of klal yisroel and the 13 ikkarim. And it’s why the Rambam gave them to us- so no mater how much someone tries to be metaher this sheretz, we know it’s a sheretz. We know Yoshke wasn’t moshiach despite his claim of G-d in a body, we know others who try that claim aren’t.

    in reply to: The Shach #1706278
    LerntminTayrah
    Participant

    You can call him the Avi Ezri, which would be like The Shach. Otherwise it’s like saying The Shneerson.

    Unfortunately, Rav Shach zt”l was proven correct. Many thought he was wrong , but the last 25 years have proven him correct, as discussed elsewhere.

    Daniel was punished for Nuvuchadnetzar davening to him, as per the midrash.

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