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March 23, 2023 10:36 am at 10:36 am in reply to: The Five Most Likeliest Candidates to be Moshiach #2176233LerntminTayrahParticipant
n0m, that is what gedolim are for. Are gedolim tell us what is kefirah. And the litvish gedolim have spoken here.
Hashem said lo Bashamayim hee, follow your chachomim. Hashem won’t have a moshiach candidate that goes against the chachomim.
March 15, 2023 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm in reply to: The Five Most Likeliest Candidates to be Moshiach #2174123LerntminTayrahParticipantIf you listen to the “stump the rabbi” videos, one of them by Rabbi Yosef Paltiel states that everyone agrees that the Rebbe is still alive, just a question of what to tell outsiders. So the Abarbanel and similar views are irrelevant as the die-hard meshichists believe that the Rebbe is alive.
LerntminTayrahParticipantSanhedrin 38b:
א”ר יוחנן בר חנינא שתים עשרה שעות הוי היום שעה ראשונה הוצבר עפרו שניה נעשה גולם שלישית נמתחו אבריו רביעית נזרקה בו נשמה חמישית עמד על רגליו ששית קרא שמות שביעית נזדווגה לו חוה שמינית עלו למטה שנים וירדו ארבעה תשיעית נצטווה שלא לאכול מן האילן עשירית סרח אחת עשרה נידון שתים עשרה נטרד והלך לו שנאמר אדם ביקר בל יליןSo left right before shabbos. I am seeing people quote a midrash rabbah that Hashem let him stay until after shabbos. So machlokes in sources.
LerntminTayrahParticipantIs migui a din in mah li leshaker or koyach hataana
LerntminTayrahParticipantIs mara kama muchzak or chazaka
LerntminTayrahParticipantTzum ershtens, there is the bavuste machloikes Ramban and Rambam if Garmi is a direct min grama or if it’s just stam grama.
LerntminTayrahParticipantAvira, I believe that Rav Avigdor Miler zt”l would admit he’s not on the level of the Brisker Rav zt”l, and would concede to the Brisker Rav’s view. I thought you were pro Brisk, why is this different?
Most gedoilim live a very simple, non-hedonistic lifestyle, and therefore do not have the same carbon and plastic footprint as us Americans. It’s gantz shayach that they would be moideh that we Americans are destroying the planet, like the Brisker Rav zt”l said.
There’s a gantze perek in bava basra about making sure we don’t hurt others even as we mind our own business 2nd perek) and moving things away from others to limit the damage. Why should this be any different?February 3, 2023 11:44 am at 11:44 am in reply to: What’s Our Response to Environmentalists. #2162237LerntminTayrahParticipantVolume 4 of the authoritative Shimon Meller Brisker Rav biography makes it clear that The Brisker Rav zt”l views the very midrash that others quoted here dismissively (Hashem taking Adam harishon around Gan Eden) as proof that humans can in fact destroy the world So he argues on Rav Avigdor Miler zt”l on this point. Plastics and pollutants are the result of excessive gashmius and not caring about others, which is ruchnius as well.
So to get back to the original poster, the Brisker Rav would say that we don’t have a response, except to understand that pollution is the result of our spiritual impurities having an impact on the physical world. Maskim that this has become a new religion for many, but just because other sects abuse Moshiach, Eretz Yisroel, and Tanach doesn’t mean that we have to throw out the concepts completely. So the same applies here.February 2, 2023 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm in reply to: Stop the trend of post going to Brisk and its proxies #2162055LerntminTayrahParticipantA lot of internet Torah comes from inshi deloi maali, it’s why you need an echte rebbe for hadracha. Same with the yeshivishe reid about farshidine yeshivos, darf men hubbn a rebbe for hadracha. Brisk isn’t for yeder einer, and don’t just pick a yeshiva because yenem went.
Most yeshivishe reid is lo nitein lehikaseiv and won’t up up in the CR.February 1, 2023 11:31 am at 11:31 am in reply to: Stop the trend of post going to Brisk and its proxies #2161546LerntminTayrahParticipantPekak, the Ashkenazi rav of Sterling Forest in Lakewood eats machine shmurah matzah as a Brisker. He is not the only one. I know followers of Rav Aharon Soloveitchik zt”l from America who do the same.
Yes, Brisk in general is taking over the yeshiva world, the way Lakewood did. Most smaller yeshivos have lost their shtempl to either Lakewood or Brisk, and no longer have their own mesorah.
In Torah Vodaas, Rabbi Lichtenstein allows those who want to skip secular studies to skip them. Torah Vodaas kicked out the malochim in 1933 for refusing to go to secular studies classes.
(Not that he’s “real” Brisk but he has the frum hanhagos)My frum cousin referred to Briskers as the shtoltz of Lakewood. Another cousin who went to AY told me he learned how to really read a piece of Gemara in AY, which was something he was lacking. So clearly there’s what to be said for the Brisker derech.
That said, most are still noiheg to fast on fast days, not like Briskers and chassidish women.
January 30, 2023 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm in reply to: Stop the trend of post going to Brisk and its proxies #2160860LerntminTayrahParticipantMost of those who attend RAY from America are just there for a year or 2 for “shidduchim”. As such:
1. They don’t absorb the derech of bikores except to quote it on occasion
2. they eat hand matza
3. They fast on taaneisim.So most of this is not nogeiah .
January 30, 2023 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm in reply to: Stop the trend of post going to Brisk and its proxies #2160808LerntminTayrahParticipantAmerican Yeshivish, the Mirrer rosh yeshiva was likely Rav Chaim Shmulevitz zt”l who told people to hug a soldier after the 6 Day War.
January 30, 2023 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm in reply to: Stop the trend of post going to Brisk and its proxies #2160842LerntminTayrahParticipantWithout getting into any specific situations, one thing that is always true is that just because someone yarshens a shtelle doesn’t mean they are on their father’s or father-in-law’s madreiga.
January 30, 2023 9:27 am at 9:27 am in reply to: Stop the trend of post going to Brisk and its proxies #2160716LerntminTayrahParticipantAvira, please explain what “Brisker Bikores” is, and why it differs from any other big gadol publicly bashing other gedolim. Some chassidishe rebbes go out of their way to publicly bash other gedolim. Is this also bikores or is it different? As well, where is this heter arupp gebracht in halacha ?
Thank you very much.
May 2, 2019 10:53 am at 10:53 am in reply to: Do words of hate matter? It’s just words or is it sinister? #1722219LerntminTayrahParticipantHateful speech is wrong. Daas Torah is ok. If someone points out that talking during chazaras hashatz is gadol avono mineso and you like talking during chazaras hashatz, that’s not hate.
LerntminTayrahParticipantthe gemara refers to roasting as tikun, and maachel bar drusai as food eaten by thieves who didn’t have time to prepare their food. That said ,we do find the idea of “oomtza”, raw meat chewed on by people. And there is a concept call mitztameik vera lo, that food is overcooked.
LerntminTayrahParticipantRebbetzin, the books were listed in the secular court lawsuits against Barry Gourarie celebrated by the song “didan natzach”. It’s all in the transcripts.
If they have the manuscript proving the early chad gadya had an extra verse , then the person who said it is irrelevant.
LerntminTayrahParticipantI wouldn’t call it hate as all Jews are loved, even the mistaken Jews. But part of veahavta is helping Jews go on the correct derech. Chabad believes in this, and so does the litvish, who view violations of the 13 ikkarim as serious. It’s no different than the “snag bashing” on Lubavitch sites which is just pointing out how the snags are wrong for rejecting your moshiach like we do with Yeshu hanotzri.
LerntminTayrahParticipantThe litvish follow the 13 ikkarim. The Rebbe said you don’t have to since a Rebe is the essense of G-d in a human body and it’s ok to pray to a Rebbe (as per 1979 sicha)
LerntminTayrahParticipantThe original song had the extra lyric. Later on it didn’t. Rebbetzin, not sure what your big issue is with quoting this maskil as you are pro-Lubavitch and the previous Rebbe’s library included Communist books.
The maskil was meisiach lefi tumo. The point is that it’s enough to show that the question has no basis.
April 30, 2019 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm in reply to: Difference between Chabad and everyone else? #1721269LerntminTayrahParticipantEvryone else follows the Rambams’ 13 ikkarim.
LerntminTayrahParticipantA blogger who calls himself Fred McDowell shared that original recently.
Here is what he says 9 years ago:
The Yiddish linguist Chone Shmeruk discovered a 15th century manuscript of the song in Aramaic and German-Yiddish. As a point of interest, Shmeruk believed he was able to demonstrate that the Yiddish was the original, and the Aramaic the translation. I haven’t seen his paper, nor do I possess the skills necessary to form an opinion. Below is a highly interesting variant stanza as it appears in Shmeruk’s 15th century manuscript:ואתא עכברא דאכל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא
דא קאם מייזליין און עשיט דז זיקליין דש קאפיט דז אלט וועטירליין אום צוייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין איין ציקליין
And along came the mouse that ate the goat that Father bought for two pennies, One Little Kid, One Little KidApril 24, 2019 9:25 pm at 9:25 pm in reply to: How do I stop Yeshiva World News from reporting the news? #1719168LerntminTayrahParticipantSo YWN now is the same as any other lishna bisha blog. It’s all news so it’s ok.
LerntminTayrahParticipantThe future of produce is vertical farming, with everything hydroponically grown and bug-free.
LerntminTayrahParticipantThe question never gets started.
The original chad gadya from the 1500’s had a rodent eating the goat. One extra verse and the whole cheshbon is different.
ד גדיא חד גדיא
ואתא עכברא דאכל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חדיא גדיא.דא קאם דז מייזליין אונ עשיט דז ציקליין דש קאפֿיט דז אלט וועטירליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין. ציקליין איין ציקליין.
ואתא שונרא דנשיך לעכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדי’
דא קאם דש קֶצליין אונ’ עשיט דז מייזליין דז דיא האט געשין דש ציקליין דז דא קאפיט דז אלט וואטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין. איין צ<יקליין> איין ציקליין.
ואתא כלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכיל לעכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא.
דא קאם דש הינטליין אונ’ ביישיט דז קעציליין דז עשיט דז מייזליין דז דא האט געשין דז ציקליין דז דיא קאפֿיט דז אלט וואטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין איין ציקליין
ואתא מקלא ומכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכל עכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא.
דא קאם דש שטעקליין אונ’ שלוּג דז הינטליין דז דא ביש דז קעציליין דז דא האט געשין דז מייזליין דש דא האט אויף געשין דז ציקליין דש דא האט גיקויפֿט דז אלט וועטירליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין. איין ציקליין. איין ציקליין.
ואתא נורא ואוקיד למקלא דמכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכיל עכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא. חד גדיא.
דא קאם דז פייערליין אונ’ ווער ברעניט דז שטעקליין דז דיא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין אונ’ דז דיא האט גיבישן דז קעציליין : אונ’ דז דא האט געשין דז מייזליין אונ’ דז דיא האט געשין דז ציקליין דז דיא האט גיקויפֿט דז אלט וועטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין. איין ציקליין.
ואתא מיא ומכווא לנורא דאוקיד מקלא דמכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכיל עכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא. חד גדיא.
דא קאם דז וואשרליין אונ’ ווער לעשיט דז ווייערליין דז דיא האט ווער ברענט דז שטעקליין דז דיא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין דז דיא האט גיבישן דז קעציליין דז דיא האט געשין דז מייזליין דז דיא האט געשין <דז> ציקליין דז דיא האט גיקאפֿט דז אלט וועטירליין. אום צווייא פפעניגליין. איין ציקליין. איין ציקליין.
ואתא תורא ושתא למיא דמכווא לנורא דאוקיד מקלא דמכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכיל עכברא דאכיל לגדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא.
דא קאם דז עקשליין אונ’ טרינקט דז וואשרליין דז ווער לעשיט דז ווייערליין דז דיא האט ווער ברענט דז שטעקליין דז דיא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין דז דיא האט גיבישן דז קעציליין דז דיא האט געשן דז מייזליין דז דיא האט געשן דז ציקליין דז קאפֿיט דז אלט וועטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין. איין ציקליין.
ואתא שחטא ושחט לתורא דשתא מיא דמכווא לנורא ואוקידמקלא דמכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכיל עכברא דאכיל. גדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדי’ חד גדיא
דא קאם דז גיהרגיט שוחטליין אונ’ שעכטיט דז עקשליין דז דא האט גיטרונקן דש וועשרליין דז דא האט ווער לעשט דז ווייערליין דז דיא האט ווער ברענט דז שטעקליין דז דיא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין דז דיא האט גיבישן דז קעציליין דז דא האט געשן דז מייזליין דז דא האט געשן דז ציקליין דז דא האט גיקאפֿט דז גיהרגיט וועטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין. איין ציקליין
ואתא מלאך המות ושחט לשחטא דשחט לתורא דשתא מיא דמכווא לנורא דאוקיד מקלא דמכא לכלבא דנשיך לשונרא דאכל עכברא דאכיל גדיא דזבין אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא.
דא קאם דער מלאך המות אונ’ שעֵכטיט דעם שוכט דער דא האט גישעכט דען אקשן אונ’ דער דא האט גיטרונקין דז וואשר אונ’ דז דא האט ווער לעשט דז ווייער דז דא האט ווער ברענט דז שטעקליין אונ’ דז דא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין אונ’ דז דא האט גיבישן דז קעצליין אונ’ דז דא האט געשן דז מייזליין אונ’ דז דא האט געשן דז ציקליין דז דא האט קאפֿט דז גיהרגיט וועטרליין אום צווייא פפעניגליין איין ציקליין איין ציקליין.
ואתא קודשא בריך הוא. ושחט למלאך המות. דשחט לשחטא דשחט לתורא. דשתא למיא. דמכווא נורא. דאוקיד מקלא דמכא כלבא דנשיך שונרא דאכיל עכברא דאכיל גדיא דזבין. אבא בתרי זוזי חד גדיא חד גדיא.
דא קאם הקבה אונ’ שעכטיט דען מלאך המות דער דא האט גישעכט דז גיהרגיט שוחטליין דז דא האט גישעכט דז עקשליין דז דא האט גיטרונקן דז וואשרליין דז דא האט ווער לעשט דז ווייערליין דז דא האט ווער ברענט דז שטעקליין דז דא האט גישלאגן דז הינטליין דז דא האט גיבישן דז קעצליין דז דא האט געשן דז מייזליין דז דא האט געשן דז ציקליין דז האט גיקאפֿט דז גיהרגיט וועטרליין איין ציקליין איין ציקליין
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LerntminTayrahParticipantAgain, the facts on the ground show what was meant or how it’s interpreted. As per the gedoilim, anyone who says yechi is clearly an apikoires which indicates that the atzmus sicha is understood peshuto kemashmao that you can daven to the Rebbe like it says kind of explicitly there. But I admire your leiv tov.
April 16, 2019 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm in reply to: Did YWN cave to pressure and remove a news item? #1715523LerntminTayrahParticipantRav Aharon Kotler zt”l was famous for his kanaus. Rav Eya Svei zt”l kept up his mesoireh, and it is good to see the tzurva meirabanans of Lakewood today keeping the same mesoireh.
I disagree with it but I appreciate both sides.
April 16, 2019 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm in reply to: Which mesivta should i send my 8th grade son to? #1715516LerntminTayrahParticipantKids do better in places they want to attend.
April 12, 2019 10:59 am at 10:59 am in reply to: Do I owe my neighbor kosher meat or treif meat? #1713859LerntminTayrahParticipantThe Yoreh Deah shaila is separate from the choshen mishpat.
Not sure your psak in the yoreh deah part is correct. It takes a while for that one pound to fall into the pot, and while it falls you might have chaticha naasis neveila. Plus one pound of meat is difficult to get mixed in so quickly so it’s be’en, and you are mechuyav to remove what’s be’en.
April 10, 2019 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm in reply to: NEW TREND: Sending Your Kids To Mesivta In Lakewood That Do Not Have English #1713029LerntminTayrahParticipantSecular studies don’t exist in eretz yisroel in the yeshivas, and they strongly resist it. Why?
LerntminTayrahParticipantI’m starting to get the impression that the yeshiva Reshivish Rockstar is rocking is in morristown.
LerntminTayrahParticipantYRS, the atzmus sicha is posted above, and we have the Rambam zt”l, Rav Shach zt”l and the rest to help us understand that peshuto kemashmao. There’s no “chassidus” exception in the ikkarim. You can check them yourself.
But what kind of yeshivish rockstar isn’t familiar with the litvish gedoilim?April 10, 2019 11:45 am at 11:45 am in reply to: NEW TREND: Sending Your Kids To Mesivta In Lakewood That Do Not Have English #1712764LerntminTayrahParticipantThe #1 rule of debating is to understand your opponent’s viewpoint so you can refute it.
Many yeshivas today clearly have secular studies tzu yoitzei zayn, where they are only doing it mitaam hagezeira but clearly don’t feel it’s important. This is just another step in that direction.
I disagree, but I understand their viewpoint. The kids will suffer but they suffered in Europe too and the gedoilim still felt it important.I believe the Lubavitch yeshiva Oholei Torah is run like this as well.
April 10, 2019 11:44 am at 11:44 am in reply to: NEW TREND: Sending Your Kids To Mesivta In Lakewood That Do Not Have English #1712750LerntminTayrahParticipantHealth, I am not Joseph. The mods can back me up on this. I went to college, and want my kids to get a good secular education as well. I’m just being intellectually honest though. There is a reason why the litvish chadorim in Eretz Yisroel don’t have secular studies. Again, just read Marc Shapiro’s book, don’t rely on me.
You can also find similar quotes throughout the new thick biography of Reb Baruch Ber zt”l.LerntminTayrahParticipantYeshivish roshei yeshiva will tell you there is an inyan, but it’s not supported by the mishna brura. Efsher it’s mitaam minhag.
LerntminTayrahParticipantRebbe of course. Torah>tourism
LerntminTayrahParticipantI read what you wrote, and disagree. Yeshivish people are too busy learning to understand the source of the Chabad meshugas. They can see the toitzaois but not the ikkar shoiresh poireh roish velaana because why should they spend hours understanding Chabad when they can spend the same time horoven on a ketzois?
April 9, 2019 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm in reply to: NEW TREND: Sending Your Kids To Mesivta In Lakewood That Do Not Have English #1712311LerntminTayrahParticipantI hate to defend Joseph but he’s probably correct on these quotes. We have accepted secular studies so we don’t think about them but it’s not so pashut.
According to Marc Shapiro’s book on the Seridei Eish, even in Europe there was a stratification between the educated and the uneducated. the shuls were stratified based on skill level , which is why you find things like the tailors’ shul or the wagon drivers’ shul. But even in Europe they insisted on no secular studies, even though it meant poverty.LerntminTayrahParticipantThe mishna brura in siman 91 says that now that we wear a hat in the streets, we should wear one for davening. The mashmaos is that 1. they didn’t always wear one in the street 2. When you don’t wear one in the street you don’t need to wear one during davening.
April 9, 2019 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm in reply to: NEW TREND: Sending Your Kids To Mesivta In Lakewood That Do Not Have English #1712130LerntminTayrahParticipantI want my kids to have a good secular education. On the other hand, many gedoilim were against any secular studies whatsoever. The malach, Rav Levine zt”l, left Lubavitch after catching the Riyatz with a secular book. His followers in Torah Vodaas refused to go to secular studies and were expelled in 1935. There’s a reason they don’t have them in the chadorim and yeshivos ketanos in Eretz Yisroel.
I hear both tzedadim.
April 9, 2019 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm in reply to: Mesivta run by a Godol but not necessarily a “top” yeshiva #1712120LerntminTayrahParticipantIn other words, you are looking for a good yeshivish place for bachurim who aren’t aleph bochurim but aren’t failures.
He might do well in smaller yeshivas.LerntminTayrahParticipantNeville: “those who believe the Rebbe dies and is still moshiach are making a mistake but aren’t apikorsim, unlike the ones who say he’s alive.”
Source for this distinction? Why would it be worse to believe he’s alive and hiding somewhere?
Crazy? Yes. But, I don’t see why it’s halachically worse.Nevile, The source for that is both Rav Menashe Klein zt”l and yblc”t Rav Aharon Feldman shlita. As mentioned, many do take the atzmus thing literally, where the Rebbe is c”v “G-d in human form”. Many don’t Baruch Hashem, though how they deal with the Rebbe saying “it’s not a problem asking to Rebbe instead of Hashem because he’s the essence of G-d in a human body” is beyond me.
Almost all Lubavitchers believe the Rebbe is moshiach. If you believe he died, then you believe he’s moshiach but an ordinary human being. If you call him alive, you are ascribing to him deity-like powers to evade death beyond mere mortals. Both of those sources can be found by googling.
LerntminTayrahParticipantI’m fully aware of his witty pun. But the Torah is not for witty puns.
LerntminTayrahParticipantArranged marriages work when the person you are looking for isn’t supposed to be your soulmate, just play the role of momme to your tatte.
LerntminTayrahParticipantLubavitch would do itself a favor if it would name a new Rebbe, even if they say it’s just a temporary rebbe until the real one returns.
LerntminTayrahParticipantThere’s a famous maaseh about the Satmar Rebbe speaking with Rav Bick. The Satmar Rebbe was upset tha tcouples were meeting 8 times before getting engaged instead of 2. Rav Bick told him, “you say 2 because you’re a mesader kiddushin. I say 8 because I’m a mesader gittin”
April 5, 2019 9:37 am at 9:37 am in reply to: Donald Trump should not be the President of the United States #1709779LerntminTayrahParticipantTrump is a tafsar- a tipesh sar. Not the first, won’t be the last.
LerntminTayrahParticipantyehoshuaahron: “Rav Solovechik … learned the first Sichos and mamor of The Rebbe when he took on the Nesius where the Rebbe Zt’l says explicitly The Fridiker Rebbe will take us out of galus (after his histalkus) and speaks of the Zohar quoted about Atzmus.”
So wait a second. If the Rebbe said his father-in-law is moshiach, how can the whole of Lubavitch contradict him and say the Rebbe himself is moshiach?!
LerntminTayrahParticipantThere’s a famous klal in psak- you don’t go after aggadeta. The gemara discussing the idea that moshiach can be from the dead is just as relevant as the gemara saying there is no moshiach anymore. Shkoyach on your abarbenel, but mainstream Judaism rejected that idea years ago. I know it’s much easier to say the Rebbe didn’t die, which is why many are forced to say such nonsense.
But, like Rav Aharon Feldman shlit”a said, those who believe the Rebbe dies and is still moshiach are making a mistake but aren’t apikorsim, unlike the ones who say he’s alive. So a tip of the hat for being within the fold. Kemoscha yirbu beLubavitch.
April 4, 2019 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm in reply to: Donald Trump should not be the President of the United States #1709471LerntminTayrahParticipantIf Hashem didn’t want him to be president, Hashem would put an end to Trump. Harbei shluchim lamakom.
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