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YYA: Actually it very much makes sense.

Firstly, though, the Holy Roman Empire (962-1806) and the Deutsches Reich (1871–1918) and even the Weimar Republic (1919–1933) all used the name Reich as part of their official names of the country before the Nazis Third Reich.

It makes sense here given the facts that the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis during the Holocaust period. And given the facts that Zionists today persecute Torah Jewry.

I’m not sure why you brought up Oestreich; that is a reference to the name of Austria.

AAQ: “Why do people who do not like the government and the army insist on living under their protection?”

How many times must it be repeated to you, to get it into your thick skull, that every Jew has a G-d given right to live in Eretz Yisroel, regardless of which evil Nazi like government happens to be controlling the area, at any given time.

They never asked for their protection. They were fine with the Ottoman and the British. The Zionists ruled up the Arab and Muslim billion peoples by threatening to seize Eretz Yisroel, thereby having created, already, nearly a century of endless war and terrorism that didn’t exist in Eretz Yisroel before Zionism.

That’s before even (and not even needing to) getting into the fact that the frum Jews lived in Eretz Yisroel before the Zionists and even before the Zionists ever even formed their anti-Torah anti-Jewish ideology.

YYA: What on earth are you ranting about? I’m not NK nor do I necessarily subscribe to their shitta. I have my own Rabbonim shlit”a and follow my minhagim and shittos based on their instructions. That being said, the NK does have rabbonim. I know the Kasho Rov ztvk’l, who was only niftar very recently, was one of their Rabbonim.

Why don’t YOU here and now share with us which alleged sources YOU are aware of, as you claim, WRT the shittos of the Steipler and the Chazon Ish regarding the Neteurei Karta and HaRav Amrom Blau ztvkl. And name names as you demanded of me, rather than anonymous babble. And specifically what they actually said.

Moshe Gafni Breaks His Silence: “I Saw A Bochur Crying In His Prison Cell”

somejewiknow: Absolutely correct. That’s exactly the point I’m trying to convey. Thank you for putting it very succinctly.

Yaakov Yosef A: You’re familiar with all the talmidim? Two are Reb Moshe Cohen and Reb Yitzchok Katz.

10 Chabad Bochurim Arrested At Airport; Rabbanim Call On Chabadnikim To Join Mass Tefillah

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/2464690/sifrei-torah-are-in-distress-3-moatzos-in-united-call-to-attend-mass-tefillah-in-jerusalem.html

Dati Leumi Rav Explains Why He’s Joining The Chareidi Tefillah Rally

Yaakov Yosef A:

“It’s just that the Chareidim can’t say out loud that they won’t serve altogether”

Why can’t the Chareidim say that out loud?

Yankel: You lost your bet before you even made it.

Gafni Visits Imprisoned Bnei Yeshivos: “This Is A Terrible Disgrace For The State Of Israel”

Police Give Final Approval for Massive Protest in Yerushalayim Over Targeting of “Draft-Evading” Yeshivah Bochurim

Thousands of Cheder Children Rally Outside Prison 10 in Emotional Protest for Imprisoned Talmid Ariel Shamai [VIDEOS & PHOTOS]

Yaakov: You can read for yourself what the Steipler Gaon said in high praise of the Neteurei Karta, as written in קריינא דאיגרתא, and directly quoted above in the Opening Post of this thread.

Sephardic Chief Rabbi Hagaon HaRav Yitzchak Yosef sharply criticized several Religious Zionist Roshei Yeshiva who attacked his recent remarks on the issue of drafting yeshiva Bochrim.

“There are some of them that if they would come to join a minyan, we would not count them,” Rav Yosef said. “They are considered apikorsim.”

The Chief Rabbi also singled out Rabbi Tamir Granot, a Rosh Yeshiva at a Hesder Yeshiva who has publicly called for drafting Chareidim.

“There is one ‘rabbi’ — I don’t even know if he’s a rabbi — a Rosh Yeshiva of a Hesder Yeshiva, who goes on television to speak against us,” Rav Yosef said. “Does he not fear the sin of degrading talmidei chachamim?”

He added, “Anyone who calls for drafting those who learn Torah is an apikores. We would not include him in a minyan.”

HaRav Yitzchak Yosef: “Those Who Call For Drafting Yeshiva Students Are Apikorsim — We Wouldn’t Include Them In A Minyan”; Slams Hesder “Rosh Yeshiva” [HEAR THE AUDIO]

HaRav Zilberstein Quotes The Chofetz Chaim: “Beware Of Targeting Yeshiva Bochurim!”