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  • in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch and the IDF (Israeli Army) #2433217

    NP > The Dati Leumi community needs full time learners as well. Every Jewish community does. There are plenty of challenges that go along with that. No one is exempt from challenges in olam hazeh.

    Right. It is an issue with “MO” in US – they have bright T’ch at the top and a great “middle class” of professionals who can understand the sugya, but not always long ranks of professional teachers .. We had here an exemplar of a charedi teacher in “MO” school, subtly re-educating students (and denying he was doing that). I presume DL has similar issues, maybe less. Would it be nice then that both groups strengthen each other instead of looking down?

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch and the IDF (Israeli Army) #2433218

    Happy,
    sorry, you are not repeating the same thing enough time to qualify

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch and the IDF (Israeli Army) #2433155

    NP > 1) Recognition of the vital role full time learning plays in the preservation of the Jewish Nation and taxation by a Torah True government to fund it.
    2) Under a democratic government, political advocacy for financial allocations by constituents who recognize the same.
    News flash. In a democracy you are “forced to pay” for lots of things you don’t personally agree with

    Good points:
    1) We will all be happy with the “Torah true” government (TTG). Hope, we will recognize it when we see it! What if this TTG decides to spend more on Iron dome, while allowing engineers two hours of learning after work? Similar to gemora Megilla discussion between Yehoshua and malach who says he came because the army neglected learning at night.

    2) I am ok with a democracy and using all kind of procedures from toppling the government to appealing to supreme court. A hard question then is – are we allowed to use all manners of speech that are allowed in a democracy in order to achieve the vote and maintain public support. It is often ugly. If, according to you, the goal is simply to achieve more support for your group – are you allowed to claim that your opponents are like Nazis, etc.
    We do not have a lot of halachik experience with democracy in history. One would be Poland and Lita in 1920s-30s. I read some of the Chofetz Chaim letters from that period. He is definitely using some strong language, especially during an election in Vilno, where it seems like non/anti-religious groups were on the verge of taking power away. I can’t vouch for the whole picture though. The book was of yeshivish edition, so they might have selected what to publish. So, this would definitely be a source to resolve what is allowed in elections.

    But longer play in democracy – you want to bring more people to support your side, not just fight for money. And that seems to be missing. Shas seems to understand that. They support the rest of charedi parties when they have to, but clearly keep connection with wider public.

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch and the IDF (Israeli Army) #2433148

    katan > That does not at all imply that the Mir R”Y in any way permitted the abomination of joining the Zionist shmad army in any case. He just stated that given the rules, he did not want to be called a liar.

    yes, I don’t know what his opinion was on joining the army , I was bringing his opinion to point out that not only he would be honest in certifying that someone’s occupation is Torah (that is not sign it for anyone who is never/rare in the yeshiva), but even be afraid that their slacking is a problem.

    in reply to: ארץ ישראל and the state #2432844

    YYA > Many of the secularists themselves at the time were from Frum homes

    right, and note that many became secular in those several generations based on what was going at the times in general, nothing specific to zionism. those who chose Zionism instead of communism had a way better chance to both survive themselves and not become murderers and gangsters. Note that the rabbis at the time did not have a good solution for these problems despite desperate attempts.

    thanks, ujm, pls convince katan that drafts are real. We can then discuss how US law will deal with a deferral request based on undocumented yeshiva attendance.

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch and the IDF (Israeli Army) #2432840

    thanks for the letter. There is a comment there that says that it is well known that HaRav supports nachal chareidi. There were also neturei karta in London protesting a memorial for the Rav because of that support.

    in reply to: How are girls learning Gemorah #2432834

    now we are comparing learning Gemorah with eating cheeseburgers. I don’t think R Eliezer will hold by that. And I think both simcha613 and I mentioned that mandatory learning has problems. I personally do not want to sit with my daughters and remind them again & again to review tosfos after washing the dishes. I would rather say – do you know why we do X? And then discuss gemorah’s arguments with her.

    in reply to: How are girls learning Gemorah #2432828

    I don’t think I read the article but heard his interview about it, and it said that kids connected first (she came up to ask him a chemistry question, I think), but then R Moshe approached R Tendler. I presume
    – she knew whom she is approaching (what is a chance of meeting a random guy in NYPL and have both fathers on the same beis din?!)
    – she mentioned the name to her father in a subtle way.

    Why wasn’t she interested in any of the R Moshe’s students? I don’t know. Maybe because R Moshe was not recommending college to them?

    in reply to: Help finding that app for maximizing CC points #2432816

    fake, the issue would be – taking advantage of someone. Seller is not allowed to overcharge more than 1/6, but so does the buyer. Credit card offers are done in order to entice you to use the card long-term. It is OK to try it and then decide not to keep. But routinely taking advantage of these offers means you are taking money from people. I guess it depends on the terms of the offer. If the offer is – 2% rate for one year, you are not taking money, just getting good terms, but if the offer is $200 cash or free flight, then you are taking money from someone without giving anything in return.

    and what is 5/24 rule? I am afraid to google or chatgpt

    in reply to: Should America Offer Israelis a Safe Haven? #2432814

    How is vadai of mechalel shabbos v. sofek of “becoming non-charedi”

    Just note that Chofetz Chaim sent his son-in-law to get visas on shabbos in order to leave USSR, but even then he later regretted his decision, saying it was better to stay and help those Jews who remind behind the iron curtain. So, add this to your calculation.

    in reply to: Help finding that app for maximizing CC points #2432523

    I know of “frum” people who sign up for cards to use their – sometimes very generous – introductory offers and then switch to a different one. Any posek or sefer halakha that approves that?

    in reply to: Is none2.0 Orthodox? #2432522

    funny to hear this from a MO (Muslim Orthodox).

    > No, having a draft is not a normal thing, at least not in most of the world.

    are you that stubborn that you require documentation on every statement? Nordics, Baltics, Greece, Turkey, Koreas, Ukraine have draft. US registers males in case it needs to go back to the draft. It depends on the current matzav in a country.

    > if not for the Zionists, there would have been no need for any army there.
    Almost every country in middle east was not involved in bloody wars and revolutions during last 80 years. Non-muslims are gone from most of those countries. Chazon Ish did not know that, you do.
    And you can always change that, of course – maybe muslims will be thrilled to sponsor anti-zionist dhimmies. Go.

    > Zionists made a deal with Agudah that Torah learners would not be drafted. The wicked Zionists may not renege on their deal.

    Is this the fourth of 3 shevuos?! Israel is a democracy and current knesses can vote for different laws, subject to basic laws. And, if you read what gedolim say – the 4th oath is extended, midrabanan? – to those who are not learning but dress like them.

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch and the IDF (Israeli Army) #2432515

    > Do you have a realistic solution?

    From what I heard, the current bill is that realistic solution – military service for those who are not f/t learning with strict verification of that fact. Same way as it was during early times of Israel where Mir Rosh Yeshiva was imploring his students – I am certifying that Torah is your occupation, please do not make me into a liar. If this works, hopefully both sides will see it and learn how to talk to each other.

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch and the IDF (Israeli Army) #2432512

    NP 2) There are sizeable kehilos in EY who do not take a penny from the Government.

    This is a totally separate discussion

    > One of the obstacles to this change is mandatory military service for men who are not learning full time.

    So, now blame the chilonim for paying for full time learners. But it is a well-known issue – welfare in all countries encourages people to use the funding.
    Current system was developed by the influence of the charedim. So, community need to grow up and help develop a system that encourages healthy social behaviors. Have a discussion between each other and then with others.

    > Putting our sons (and daughters) under the authority of people who are at best ambivalent and at worst outright hostile to the Torah is not acceptable.

    Do you have a document from Hashem guaranteeing lack of challenges for your community specifically? Maybe you feel that you are doing so much for Hashem by learning and wearing dark clothes on a hot day – that he needs to fulfil his side of the bris? Maybe you can start with the premise of being ehrliche citizens and brothers to other Jews and, subject to that, try to improve the matzav as much as you can.

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch and the IDF (Israeli Army) #2432491

    NP > Full time Torah Learning is a Civic Contribution of the Highest Order.

    We have various models for that in Judaism. One is Yissachar/Zevulun – that is a valid contract between two willing participants. There are, B’H people willing to support learning. Not when one of them forces the other to pay. Another is – live on bread and water. Another is – work and learn at night. Another – get a profession, work several hours a day and learn.

    Maybe the sentiment that you present is based on (unsaid?) assumption that the Jewish state is valuable – and we expect more out of it. Then, the community should publicly acknowledge that they see other Israelis as brothers and conduct conversation accordingly.

    One of the links to Jewish Action referred to a story that R Soloveichik encountered in 1935 a stalinist kibbutz with a kosher kitchen. Turns out that R kook had previously visited the kibbutz on a Shabbat, had some inspirational time with them, did not criticize any of their behaviors and before leaving said “I hope we can also eat together next time”. They kashered the kitchen next day.

    in reply to: How are girls learning Gemorah #2432468

    NP > Can you unpack what you mean about “the analysis of Mitzvot”
    There are different ways to analyze Mitzvot. Do you mean: (1) legal parameters, like the Talmud. (2) reasons, like the Chinuch. (3) Something else…

    I don’t want to give one narrow definition – just whatever is relevant to the specific student or group. I guess I am just extending the idea of not forcing. Learning a daf according to all commentaries is forcing a specific discussion on people who are not obligated or motivated to do it. I am for discussing a particular sugya – whether how to light candles or whether it is justice v. peace – and going to corresponding gemoras for understanding. I disagree that Gemorah is limited to “legal parameters”. As someone asked R Salanter – what is the source for your “unorthodox” teachings. He said – “gemorah”. The other person: “I don’t see it in the gemorah” [AAQ: this means this person knew a gantze gemorah]. R Salanter – it is in _my_ gemorah. See Rambam for his definition of “gemorah”.

    in reply to: How are girls learning Gemorah #2432465

    simcha613> I was talking about an elective Gemara class for girls.

    right. and my sources @ Stern tell me that only a small number of girls attend purely “gemora” classes and many of them are politically motivated to do that. At the same time, “regular” Judaic classes bring Gemorah or Rambam related to the topic of study.

    NP > 2) Such initiatives will surely be highjacked by people with a Feminist agenda.
    exactly, see above.

    NP > After all, Beis Yaacov was also unprecedented. However, like Beis Yaacov, such an innovation should have broad support from Gedolei Yisroel to be considered legitimate.

    BY also had opposition among gedolim of the time. Maybe the difference seems to be that BY is a mass movement, and Gemora learning is not (or at least should not be). So, it affects a certain segment of women, so some Rabbis have these issues and others – avoid.

    Also, the main innovation of BY was not educating of girls – that was already done by German Jews, but somehow making it acceptable to the charedi communities. Maybe same has to happen with Gemora learning.

    in reply to: How are girls learning Gemorah #2432453

    ujm> By time he found out they had already fallen in love

    maybe you have better sources. My understanding is that R Feinstein offered a shidduch to R Tendler senior without either of them being fully aware.
    and, again, you are putting assumptions on the gadol hador that he did not propose an appropriate shidduch for his daughter.

    in reply to: Talmudic driving #2432116

    DY, this rov has no problem calling my questions dumb when he thinks so. And I have no problem taking it under advisement. In this case, he acknowledged validity – and it is hard to argue with the question that is direct reading of the Gemorah. But his answer is a better conclusion from the Gemorah that my silly question was.

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch and the IDF (Israeli Army) #2432114

    somejew sarcasm notwithstanding, there is contradiction of a Rav giving a public plsak for the community and then a different psak for individuals.

    I was told personally by someone whose son was in a very anti-college yeshiva in Yerushalaim. When his son asked the Rav privately, the rav did not object to this lamdan to go to college. Same is reported by R Lau – he was in R Auerbach yeshiva where there were no limudei chol, but upon insistence of R Lau’s uncle, R Auerbach allowed R Lau to study on his own in preparation for bagrut and even chastised him for lack of enthusiasm in learning sciences.

    HaKatan > Obviously, they all live under whatever conditions the Zionist invaders provide, whether that is the Iron Dome or anything else.

    I have an idea for you to demonstrate your principles. Iron Dome’s munitions are expensive – and Arrow (against larger missiles) are even more expensive.
    So, the way system works – it evaluates where the missile is flying and if that area is empty, then no interceptors are sent out. So, you can simply make an agreement with the Tzahal that your areas should be considered a midbar (as Chazon Ish said) and not requiring protection by Iron Dome. You can post signs on the streets – under divine protection, no iron dome.

    > and let them work like in every normal country

    work a good start, I am glad we are coming to a common point. But draft is also a normal thing. US had draft after to the 1970s, and Jews were drafted, although college students had deferral. I don’t know whether BMG qualified. Did it? Is Tzahal kashrus below the standard of US Army?

    in reply to: How are girls learning Gemorah #2432104

    ujm > He did not suggest him at all to his daughter. His daughter met him in the New York Public Library and from there it just went from there. Rav Moshe accepted it because by time he knew about it, it was too late.

    I looked into this interesting story and posted here several years ago. I don’t recall whether it was NYPL or Brooklyn College library – where both of them were studying chemistry and that is what Ms. Feinstein used as a pre-text. According to my reconstruction of the events, Ms. Feinstein then subtly planted the idea into her father’s head, and R Feinstein suggested the shidduch to his future shver – with whom they were sitting together on the beis din. The father then asked the son and was shocked to hear that the decision was already made.

    You still need to explain how is that R Moshe got into this situation. He was a Rosh Yeshiva – he could not find the right shidduch among his best students? Laughable. His two sons became huge T’Ch, there is very little statistical chance that the daughter turned out differently in such an illustrious family.

    Just to help you out of this pickle: you can argue that this is an example of a daughter learning Gemorah (secretly, hiding behind her brothers) leading her to shtus?!

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Sherer and the modern State of Israel #2432098

    GadolHadofi, thanks for an interesting article. There is a link at the bottom of the article that also describes views of R Zevin and R Frank. Of course, all of these need to be balanced to the anti-state views that are alluded in the articles but not described in detail.

    But I think sincere confusion comes from the fact that for some posters, those quotes are totally unfamiliar. Their sincere reaction is to deny that these quoutes exist because – unfortunately – the seforim they read did not contain them. I am not sure whether they’ll try to verify those or just deny.

    in reply to: How are girls learning Gemorah #2432100

    NP > The objection is to a program of formal instruction on a community level. I think it’s obvious that a girl or woman who pursues learning would need competent instruction.

    I agree with the general direction you are taking. these terms are not precise. We understand that Beruriah was probably the only lady in most classes just because this was rare. Nowadays, even if this were as rare, all Beruriahs from all over the world can get on a plane and get together in a college or seminary. They can also get on zoom.

    So, I would clarify ” formal instruction on a community level” as an obligatory/expected program of learning at high school/college level. See: seminary. Whether they teach gemora that leads to shtus or just shtus directly, they became as obligatory as a bas mitzvah, and you can see that it often works out in a funny way.

    That said, I don’t see an objection from these halachik sources to girls/ladies who have capacity and interest – to pursue this learning in any form _they_ choose. And, furthermore, I would prefer them learning “gemorah” in the original meaning of Rambam (and probably amoraim themselves): analysis of mitzvos, not necessarily all pilpul on a daf.

    in reply to: Hi I’m back 3.0 #2432064

    coffee> I never said you were a TALMID chachacham, i said you are a CHACHAM which anyone can be (חכמה בגוים תאמין) the saying חכם עינו בראשו doesn’t only apply to Torah

    your definition of the chacham seems OK, but your definition of the “talmid” seems off. T’Ch is a lower madregah and many true T’Chim call themselves mostly T’Ch as if they did not finish learning.

    I don’t recall the source, but I think there is an explicit comparison – T’Ch can answer shailohs on the masechet he is currently learning, while Ch’ can answer anywhere in the Torah.

    Maybe you are confused because, as you quote, chacham often refers to general knowledge and sciences, while t’Ch often is referred with ability to answer shailohs and also proper behavior (not walking on your own at night, dressing up properly). Maybe T’Ch starts with memorizing one mashechet at a time (see above), while Chacham has thinking capabilities that include as well general knowledge.

    Anyway, I modestly claimed only naviyut, so none of these categories apply to me. And the reason I did it – to divert this ugly stream of mutual accusations … BTW, after I examined myself before I modestly concluded that I am not a T’Ch, I found I have something in common with Alter Rebbe!
    As he said – he was choosing between going to Vilna Gaon and Maggid of Mezirich: I knew something about learning torah but I knew NOTHING about davening. So, I am 50% there like alter Rebbe! Of course, after Alter Rebbe learned something about davening, he tried to see Gaon – but he did not have a prayer …

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch and the IDF (Israeli Army) #2431615

    yankel berel, we went a long way from complaining about prosecutions in our history – murders, limiting employment, unfair taxation – to complaining about the government requiring the community to perform at least some of their civil duty – work and defend against the enemies.

    I understand the ideal of wanting to have a community that is all about Torah learning, but you have to be realistic, and “realistic” means behaving according to halachik norms in the situation Hashem put us. Say, you were to live in China – would you demand Chinese government to provide you with a stipend and a police force? Then, why you are demanding the same from Jews, whom you do not respect and who are not always willing to support you?
    This is just no ehrlich. How do you call a person who forcibly extract money from another? Furthermore, I do not even understand the motivation – Hashem gives us mitzvos, why would I want to risk my olam haboh by refusing to defend, to fulfil my ketubah and by creating this terrible strife in a Jewish country. Maybe try to meet your requirements at least part of the way and see how it feels.

    in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Sherer and the modern State of Israel #2431620

    I think R Issr Zalman was even a member of some underground organization while in the yeshiva (Mir?)

    in reply to: Talmudic driving #2431417

    Avram, your disrespect for talmidei chachamim here is stunning even by the low standard of this board, even if you made this as a joke. Is your account also hijacked?

    Is your premise that any Rav that acknowledges that yesh chochma b’goyim is not the Torah you learned?

    To clarify the sugya, maybe you did not chap – I asked a very specific question, based on the Gemora: if R Akiva taught his students safety of travel and Gemora approves that, where is this taught in current yeshivos – using analogy to driving. The Rav acknowledged that this has to be taught – and generalized to other safety issues, as well as more important topic – marriage. He then suggested that he will continue teaching Torah per se but recommend good general education to be able to fulfil the safety requirements that R Akiva was teaching. I wonder what is your “new rov”‘s position. I see two other options: either he is going to teach chochmah himself, if he is qualified in marriage/driving/food/job safety or he will tell you not to bother. I hope you’ll ask the shailah and let us know what your rov recommends.

    in reply to: The Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of “Israel” #2431413

    HaKatan, I think we can understand that PR believed that all the construction done by Zionists will eventually be for the good. So, you can use his permission to be equally accommodating.

    in reply to: ארץ ישראל and the state #2431401

    > who have destroyed generations of Jews and working even harder than in the past to destroy the olam haTorah in E”Y.

    I asked you before and did not an answer:
    – what is your source that Zs destroyed anyone? Non-religious Jews in Europe became non-religious Zs and were saved from Nazis and Commies.
    – who is destroying your olam? your olam is asking for money and for being exempt from serving in the army like anyone else. There are no commies running around EY trying to close yeshivos like in communist russia.

    in reply to: How are girls learning Gemorah #2431400

    > and the like, as Rav Moshe Zatza”l noted
    And your explanation for R Moshe’s granddaughter learning gemora is … She was raised by R Moshe’s daughter and his SIL whom he personally suggested to his daughter ….

    > If women choose to do so on their own, that’s their business.

    Good, so you permit something. Now, we simply need to define what is “on their own”. Beruriah attended classes by 300 teachers (in one day) as mentioned by Rabbi, I think. In my view and probably in yours, this qualifies as women learning on their own rather than father teaching her. So, the same in our times – I agree with you that having rigid programs where girls have to learn gemorah as part of graduation requirement either for high school or Jewish college is not appropriate, but giving them an opportunity to do so on their own decision is fine.

    > invaded the holy land against the will of the Jews there (the chareidim).

    Eida Charedit (that is not the same as large number of current haredim) was located at a couple of places under Turks. They did not control the country.
    And I am personally fine if you want to separate from the country as Neturei Karta and live under your own protection. As far as I know none of Roshei Yeshivos hold by this and reside in the areas covered by Iron Dome.

    in reply to: Hi I’m back 3.0 #2431395

    coffee, thanks, but I am still reaching for the navi. There are a lot of features of tlamid chacham mentioned in the gemora that I view as a criteria – such as if you seem him posting an aveirah in the evening, you don’t have to remind them in the morning as he surely did teshuva. And, in Avodah Zara, you can presume to buy items that require trust from their family, as the chacham presumably taught his wife and househoild. I am not holding by these madregas yet! I did achieve the appropriate level of humility, though, so I stop here.

    Chazit > There was always a core group sitting in learning and not heading to battle

    That’s a good argument, not ignoring Moshe’s words! Now the question is – can one self-select himself as a shevet Levi? Maybe let’s not discuss shevet Levi of those times, but look at more appropriate models: say, Zevulun-Issahar, when one learns and one works and they share schar. It is a contract, signed by both parties.

    Why not pair someone who learns with someone who goes to the army, where they both appreciate the value of learning? I presume DL community will be able to do that within their own families. Presuming you are a chareidi – could you find a soldier who will be willing to join you in this partnership? Maybe you can increase your ties – you can help deliver supplies ot the army and share some of your learning when you meet.

    duvid > biggest enemy today is the Israeli Supreme Court

    you are illustrating what was happening, say, in 1920s Poland – where Jews (and Poles also) were involved in fighting between different subgroups – while ignoring two evil superpowers on their borders.

    As to the army run by secular politicians – you probably live in a democratic country where majority makes the rules, whether it is Israel or US. Alternatives to democracies exist, if you are willing to live in Iran/China/Russia/Saudi Arabia. If not, you need to follow halocha and follow the rules of the country. It is normal for every country to have an army to defend against the enemies. And it is up to you to vote the right politicians, convince other people in the country to vote same way as you do be seeing how righteous you are, and by making the army more religious, including the leaders.

    in reply to: Gartels #2431090

    reb mutche, this joke is old – before Litvakim encountered modern Arabs, unless this joke is from the time of the Tannaim.

    .doe> The Tribes of Gad and Reuben both fought in the battles to conquer the land and even stayed an extra 7 years,

    Exactly, whether their original statement was clumsy and they planned to go fight or whether they accepted tochacha from Moshe, they joined the rest of AM Israel, while keeping their pastures. So, it is not late for those sitting out now to join tzahal and then return to their studies.

    Those who start immediately arguing about different matzav are right of course, but you need first to accept Moshe’s argument of responsibility for your brothers whatever other issues are out there.

    in reply to: Gartels #2430744

    Reb mutche, you got the joke: for a litvak, it is enough to separate the brain.

    in reply to: Gartels #2430743

    On thicker ties: yes. Mine is thin and sharp.

    in reply to: ארץ ישראל and the state #2430739

    > The biggest supporter of Torah currently is actually the Russian President, not the Zionists

    Lozada zechus, someone broke into the account and impersonated the poster.

    in reply to: Gartels #2430742

    Just visiting is in the right place. The shailoh is not about gartels, but about low self esteem that someone from one tradition wants to pickup a different tradition because, presumably, it look frummer.

    Just visiting suggests other ways to enhance your religiosity. To my taste, this list is a little self centered, especially schlepping your own siddur and shtender. I prefer to use same shul siddur, especially old worn ones that people from previous generation used. You can also buy some shtenders for the shul if it needs them. Also try to attend a shul that is struggling with getting a minyan and come on days where problem is the biggest. Also, path legally near the shul and leave space for pedestrians to walk buy, do not stand in hot shul blocking cols air.

    in reply to: Hi I’m back 3.0 #2430736

    I am a Navi because I can predict how this discussion will end: everyone will stand firm at their original opinion.

    in reply to: Ethics and Entenmann’s #2430456

    Biggest death rates in ancient times were due to child mortality and maybe communicative diseases and hunger aftet that. Gemora Taanis suggests start davening when a pandemic of people or animals, even pigs, happens in areas connected to your city by trade routes.

    And when pandemic reaches your city, then run away or go into lock down.

    And due to child and hunger mortality, probably wealthy adults were stronger and healthier than some now.

    As to overall effect, just notice billions of people on the planet with decreased birth rates and figure it out.

    in reply to: Gartels #2430041

    Garters separate the head from the lower part of the body, and some have thicker heads thsn others …. anyway, a tie fulfills the minimum requirement.

    A bigger question is – if you have zechus to belong to a menorah focused on intellectual achievements – why do you suddenly care about adding a string around your waist? You don’t feel frum enough because someone else doing something you don’t? Maybe look up some minhagim of say Rav Salanter or Alter from Slobodka, I am sure you’ll find some middos you can still work on. But maybe a belt is an easier path to feeling frum.

    in reply to: Talmudic driving #2429687

    I asked a rov for a sefer on driving, he answered that making people read available books on marriages as well as general STEM and English education is needed.

    none > why don’t you just allow men and woman meet naturally

    There should be a balance somewhere. When the world shows great progress, say in building cars or medicine, we should pay attention. But there are no great advances in marriages, so why copy?

    in reply to: The Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of “Israel” #2429482

    > The Agudah’s political/laymen departments do not always accurately reflect the beliefs and attitudes of the Gedolim on the Moetzes.

    How could that be? you are saying a gadol will work for/with an organization that espouses different views? What next, teaching at YU?!

    in reply to: The Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of “Israel” #2429479

    on holiday? maybe he was drafted or volunteered? Most likely, he is at the demonstrations.

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