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  • in reply to: Israeli Elections 2013 – Let's Talk Politics #928048
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    147: shopping at the SOY seforim sale does not support Israel or Zionists. I kinda think its funny the whole concept of this American Zionist. The guy who thinks he is a zionist because he says mi shebeyrach on shabbis. What a joke. The Zionist who sits comfortably in his estate in Teaneck and pontificates that a true zionist is one who buys israeli bonds or shops at the SOY seforim sale. a joke. the maraglim also said, “look at these beautiful fruits” and “what a great country” until yehoshua said “ok lets go live there.” then their american zionism kicked in “no we cant live there but we’ll be zionists from the desert.” fools.

    in reply to: Learn Mishnayos for Mayor Koch, z"l #927284
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    YW Moderator-95: while Zdad’s may go over the top sometimes, i unfortunately see many posters choose to go this route (i myself have unfortunately fallen into this behavior sometimes). while i disagree with this style i find that the mods here allow much much worse to be written against Zionists rabbis and modern orthodox rabbis. it is only when zdads comes out (wrongfully) against chareidim and chassidim do the mods raise their voice. this appears to be a bias.

    There is probably a bias. I concede as much.

    This is not a perfectly moderated site, and if we didn’t allow anything which would make anyone upset, there would be nothing left to say. So we allow a large envelope, but outside the envelope, we don’t allow.

    in reply to: Giving Tzedaka to Beggars #926749
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    What about the frum guy who stands in the old city begging for money with a sign but you see him roaming around with his galaxy s3? i think its better to give the parkinsons ridden goy who asks you for a hotdog from annies than the frum guy with the sign in the old city.

    in reply to: Marrying Someone as a Chesed #918629
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    most women believe marrying any man is a chesed.

    in reply to: Inadvertently taking extra merchandise – halacha #918147
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    my ruv says you return it whether the person is an oveyd a”z or a jew or anything else.

    in reply to: The Troll Slaying Brigade #917355
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    the problem with this forum is that often people cant tell the difference between humor/sarcasm and someone being a troll. even shmendrick only became a troll after his original posts were treated as if he was being serious when clearly he was being sarcastic. he took it and ran with it. if he were treated like pigeons and cats, and not fed, it wouldnt have become a problem.

    in reply to: Non-Jewish Music #917291
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    among the middle eastern “jews”, arabic music was whidely listened to among the religious such as um al khartoum who was listened to by rabbi ovadya yosef. further, the melodies of the chazzunim such as yechiyel nahary and moishe chabushe are arabic songs converted for use in tfilluh. in fact, if you look for videos of concerts of religious jewish singers of middle east decent you will find that the concerts have some jewish worded songs and some arabic songs with love song lyrics being performed in front of religious crowds which include separate seating. it does not seem to be an issue at all among those “jews”.

    in reply to: Some notes about what it means to be truly poor… #1001060
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    There are so many sad parts to this sad story but the one thing that really struck a nerve is how a Yid has been left so alone with no family. Where is your father? Your mother? How have you been left with no one? Makes me sad.

    in reply to: Y.U. Abuse Scandal and Cover-Up #913514
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    i saw this statement today:

    Dear Yeshiva University Community,

    At this institution we continually review and strengthen policies and practices addressing the safety of all members of the Yeshiva family. We are vigilant and responsible, and always will be. While we cannot change the past, I can say with absolute certainty that Yeshiva University has implemented, and will continue to maintain and enforce the policies and procedures necessary to assure a safe environment. Such policies and procedures, established in consultation with outside experts, include:

    Members of our own faculty and staff, at every level, undergo training designed to increase sensitivity to these issues, including mandatory training for new hires concerning sexual harassment.

    Before embarking on service learning and experiential education missions where they will work with children, students are taught to recognize warning signs of child abuse and to refer concerns to appropriate authorities.

    Students are encouraged to report any incidents of abuse to the University administration and should feel safe knowing that their security is our number one concern. A hotline exists to enable confidential reporting of such complaints. The hotline number is 866-447-5052.

    Members of our faculty advocate on behalf of victims of child abuse; consult and advise around the world, including with child protective service organizations, and in communities across the spectrum; and present educational programs designed to prevent abuse both to parents and children.

    CJF offers continuing educational programs to rabbis and rebbetzins, including a certificate program, to help them recognize and address all forms of abuse in their communities.

    Anyone who may have suffered harm is invited to contact us in confidence. By emailing [email protected], counseling resources of the University will be made available to you, and I welcome the opportunity to personally and confidentially discuss any issues with anyone who may have suffered harm. I can be reached at [email protected] or (212) 960-5300.

    Thank God, communities across the nation are well aware of these issues today, and hopefully address them appropriately. At Yeshiva University we are committed to our sacred obligation to ensure that best practices are set and followed on our own campuses, and to play a key role in the broader community in keeping our most precious resource, our children, safe from harm.

    Sincerely,

    Richard M. Joel

    President and Bravmann Family University Professor

    in reply to: Does a Divorce indicate a Family lacked Shalom Bayis? #913353
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    the way you posed the original question is a misnomer. its like asking is it always true that one who sits in the dark has no light in his room. but if you mean can two people who loved and may still love each other get divorced, i think most will agree, yes. (but love is only one part of sholom bayis.)

    in reply to: Ksuba question #910103
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    akuperma, you raise another issue. in those communities that the chossin does not sign the ksuba, the witness are declaring that the chossin acknowledged all the facts that are are stated there when in fact the chassin did no such thing and may not even know what it says there. Now the witnesses are liars too. As eidin zommimim they should be responsible for supporting her.

    in reply to: Ksuba question #910087
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    farrocks and more 2: thats fine and dandy but that is not what he says under the chuppa. his ksuba should say exactly what you wrote and not the opposite. instead of promising you support his ksuba should say “you or your father promise to support and i promise to give you the zchus of learning.” instead, he stands there and lies.

    Haleivi: maase yedah shelo only if he supports her, if he does not she can say i dont want your support and i keep my wages. i guess yeshiva boys cant learn either.

    in reply to: "…To date there have been 72 Shidduchim…" -NASI ad #910250
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    Most people I have spoken with who are in the parsha are offended by NASI.

    To me, who granted is not in the parsha, NASI sounds like an offensive program which lacks moral compass. It most resembles, to me, the black-market for organs. Of course had I needed a kidney, chas visholum, I would be glad a black market exists but nonetheless those who do it are vile and cursed people.

    in reply to: Yeshiva Tuition #909714
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    I do not believe the Blaine Amendment will stand as an impediment to vouchers. In Zelman v. Simmons-Harris, 536 U.S. 639 (2002), the Supreme Court ruled that voucher programs do not violate Ohio’s Blaine Amendment if the program meets all of the following criteria:

    (1) the program must have a valid secular purpose,(2) aid must go to parents and not to the schools,(3) a broad class of beneficiaries must be covered,(4)the program must be neutral with respect to religion, and (5) there must be adequate nonreligious options.

    in reply to: Yeshiva Tuition #909703
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    DaMoshe is exactly right. If the question is whether the child has a right to a Jewish education or if jewish education is a luxury, i believe the answer is that it is a right. For every right there is an obligation. Upon whom does the obligation rest to ensure that every child has the right to a jewish education? the answer is (1) the parents then (2) the grandparents and then (3) the community. This is a rambam is hilchis talmud toyra. in any event, the public school system which also recognizes that education is a right places the obligation upon the entire community. the catholic community which recognizes a catholic education to be a right places the obligation upon the entire community. it is only frum jews who view jewish education to be a luxury and not a right.

    in reply to: Why do we call them Toysfiss #1046023
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    Some very interesting responses here. i liked akuperma’s explanation. but still, you would think the better thing to do would be if everyone just pronounced it toysafos from now on. interestingly, the artscroll english shas spells it tosafos. i think longarekel’s suggestion that there are deep reasons for mispronouncing words even in tfilla is unlikely. its like when my 5 year old tries to find an affirmative reason for some mistake she made. based on the interesting responses here it seems reasonable to conclude that it is not such a big deal to mispronounce words but to say its affirmatively more desirable? pffft.

    in reply to: Would You Marry A Divorcee? (If you were never previously married.) #900500
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    a common response seems to be: i would want to know why the divorce. i am not so sure that is so important. in almost every divorce the one side thinks the other side was a vildeh chaya (or the shvigger was). in almost all cases that is not really true. i think the reason for divorce – unless its something crazy like “she was arrested for running a meth lab” or something like that – does not really speak about the person all that much.

    in reply to: Artscroll Gedolim biographies #981843
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    btw, in my first post, i sarcastically wondered why artcroll never covered rav ben tzion abba shaul. i was wrong. they did in a book called “TORAH LEADERS A treasury of biographical sketches.” so i was wrong about that as well. Indeed, rav ezra attia, who i also mentioned, was covered in “NOBLE LIVES NOBLE DEEDS – VOLUME 3”

    Harav Yehuda Tzadka and Rav Yisroel Abuhasera were covered in volume one and Harav Rufuel Tolidano in volume 2.

    in reply to: Artscroll Gedolim biographies #981838
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    vochindik: when i am wrong, i am wrong. I decided to crunch the numbers. Pre-war and Pre-Israel, there were 50,000-60,000 Jews in Yemen, 100,000 Jews in Turkey, Syria and Lebanon, 250,000 in Morocco and half a million Jews in Iran and Iraq. There were about 100,000 sefaradic jews in europe and america. The total, in fact, is about 10% of the world jewry, as was stated earlier. i still do not believe the bar ilan study is accurate about israel’s jews.

    According to hebrew university in 2007, 3 million ashkenazi jews in israel with about 500,000 being non-halachik jews and about 2.5 million mizrachi/sefaradic jews. They put it at about 35% sefaradic worldwide today.

    the whole point with artcroll is that ashkenazi jews (and sefaradi jews) should be interested in learning about sefaradic gedolim (and ashkenazi gedolim).

    in reply to: Artscroll Gedolim biographies #981833
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    Jewish MultiCultural Project’s project records 40% of world Jewry as mizrachi or Sephardic. When you take into account that Ashkenazi Jewry has been diluted by intermarriage and secularization in proportions mizrachi Jews have not (and most Ashkenazi Jews are Jewish in ways you and I don’t consider Jewish) it becomes a lot closer .

    in reply to: A way to get Pollard and Rubashkin out #900447
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    rubashkin and pollard and the same in that they both were sentenced for crimes they committed much worse than what justice demands but they are different in that pollard already served the sentence that justice demands while rubashkin has not. it is not fair to pollard to compare him to rubashkin at this point.

    in reply to: Artscroll Gedolim biographies #981831
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    vochindic: in 1931, ashkenazi jews believed that 92% of world jewry was sefaradic because ashkenazi jewry looked only to european jews. the study you cited was plain wrong. anyone who believes that 10% of world jewry is ashkenazi is a fool (if you include mizrachi jews as sefaradic). in fact, when you consider that more than 50% of israeli jewry is sefaradic and that 75% of american ashkenazi jewry is so far removed from judaism they are not really jews in any real way, you realize that sefaradic jewry is actually a larger target for artcroll.

    in reply to: Artscroll Gedolim biographies #981825
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    sushee: your nonsensical stats about sefaradic jewry reinforces the need for better education about acheinu hasefaradim.

    in reply to: Artscroll Gedolim biographies #981817
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    as a daf yomi-er i am tied at the hip to artcroll. that being said, i feel that artcroll has ignored anglo-sefaradic jewry even in its elucidation of shas as can be evidenced by the achronim/late achronim cited (and not cited). the fact that artcroll has never published a sefaradic siddur is curious. the biography issue.

    on the other hand, artcroll has published the sefaradic haggadah and rabbi mansours daily halacha so i do not believe it is an intentional anti-sefardic bias, chas veshalom. i think more can be done to encourage artcroll to include our sefaradic brothers and that may also include donations and involvement of the sefaradic community with artcrolls efforts.

    in reply to: Rav Chaim: A Nebach Apikorus is also an Apikorus #900850
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    bubka: i am not sure what rav chaim brisker came to add as this is pashut pshat in the rambam which is why rambam recounts the whole story of how people (inadvertently and innocently) began worshiping idols in the times of enosh as he states:

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    ? ??????? ?? ??? ?? ????? ????? ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ??? ??????, ???????? ????????? ???; ??????? ??? ??? ??? ????? ????? ??????, ????? ?????? ?????? ????. ???????? ?????? ??? ??????? ??, ???? ???????; ???? ?? ???, ??? ???? ?? ???.

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    in reply to: Artscroll Gedolim biographies #981811
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    WIH, let us ignore the (wanted or wanted) role and responsibility that artcroll has assumed in the greater jewish world for a second and allow me follow your logic here. because artcroll is ashkenazi it publishes for the ashkenazi readers. why would anyone of ashkenazic decent care to read about sefaradic gedolim? WIY: when you say “go do it”, you assume i am also sefaradic but alas, i am not.

    in reply to: Artscroll Gedolim biographies #981807
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    my favorite artcroll biographies are those written about the great sefaradi gedolei hador like rav ezra attia and rav yosef chaim. what a good read. i also enjoyed the one about rav soleiman eliyahu very much. also, the one about rav bentzion abba shaul was compelling. also, artcroll wonderful biography about rav yotzchak nissim was simply awe inspiring. artcrolls wonderful biography about rav yehuda tzadka should win a pulitzer this year. i particularly enjoyed the biography that artcroll published about Rabbi Chaim Falagi.

    Oh, wait, artcroll never published any of those. hmmmmmmmmmm…..

    in reply to: Cousins Marrying #930382
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    on a completely unrelated tangent, i would like to point out that while i very often disagree with the opinions espoused in this forum by akuperma, the posts are among the most intelligent, well-reasoned and articulate posts i read on talkbacks anywhere. take a look at the remark here about first cousins; short yet comprehensive, accurate and to the point.

    even though i think akuperma’s stance on Zionism, for example, is anti-Torah and dangerous for world jewry, akuperma makes the best arguments for any position. if there was a poster of the year vote, my vote would definitely be for akuperma. a good read every time.

    in reply to: So does anyone play WOW here? #932450
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    oneofmany: i really wasnt trying to tork you off. if you enjoy gaming you should care what everyone else says anyway.

    in reply to: So does anyone play WOW here? #932442
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    dont get me wrong one of many, i too loved video games. then i hit my bar mitzvah. but seriously, most gamers i know (kevin smith) are quite proud of their nerd stature. someone who is insulted by what i wrote is a nerd chut hameshulash: yeshivish (1) and a gamer (2) and a wanna be (3). oy veyzmir!!!! please dont send your second life goat-warrior dragon face to slay my plucked golden goose head dinosaur. i wouldnt know what id do with my life then.

    in reply to: So does anyone play WOW here? #932439
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    Curiosity, isn’t there a dungeons and dragons convention you need to get to before they run out of the free fanny packs?

    in reply to: So does anyone play WOW here? #932432
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    look at this thread. man alive. YWN coffee room regulars who are ALSO gamers. just when you thought it couldnt get more loserish, it does.

    in reply to: Is White Collar Crime An Aveirah? #897490
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    ???-???????? ?????, ?????????????, ??????????, ???????????? ??????????????. ???????? ????? ???????-?????, ?????? ????? ?????? ?????–??????? ?????

    i believe it undermines the very essence of being a yid to take advantage of other people financially and those that trade on insider information or commit white collar crimes and causing all the rest of us who play by the rules to lose. if you do not understand that you do not understand how the market works.

    and for those who practice technical judaism only, please see, ???”? ?? ????? – ????? ????? ????? ??? ?’ ?”?

    in reply to: Singing by Tzibor #897148
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    can anyone direct me to a source. something sounds off here as in many shuls much of tfilla is sung together.

    in reply to: Is it permissible to have a goy in a sukkah? #897687
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    the concept cited by WIH that the sukka is kanfei hashchinos and therefore this thing or that thing is not permitted in a sukka is really a problematic concept because i have seen it cited to the point where the sukka is no longer ke’in taduru and therefore, it does appear to place this kabbalistic concept in direct contradiction with halocho which requires that you treat your sukka like your home and do in your sukka what you do in your home.

    in reply to: NYC Board of Health Votes to Regulate Bris Milah #1096199
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    shien, i dont get your post at all. isnt the law simply stating that the parents have to be informed that MBP will take place. How can that possibly be unconstitutional? You only need to tell the parents about it so that they can make an informed decision. It is not a ban. unless i am missing something here.

    and i understand the slippery slope argument that this will lead to a ban but how can you say that this particular law is illegal? quite frankly i think parents should make an informed decision about MBP. why not?

    in reply to: Soda Ban NYC #896531
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    so rich people can continue to have fattening lattes evry morning and sit at fancy restaurants and drink bottles and bottles of fattening wine but the poor people cant get a soda at the movie theater. Oh, i get it.

    in reply to: How long is wine good for? #896538
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    wine is good for about 24 hours and drinkable for about 48 hours. if you put it in the fridge you can squeeze a whole week out of it and maybe a little more. of course you need to let the wine warm up to the desired temperature before you drink it.

    in reply to: Satmar Rav on rice #896699
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    I thought the Satmar rav escaped the war to Israel/Palestine. How could he have been in a displaced persons camp?

    in reply to: Why are pple voting for Obama #896324
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    i think it come down to this: we american voters have lost all hope in government. we have come to expect that government will tax us too much whether its republican or democrat. we believe they are all selfish and looking out for themselves and their own interests and not ours. we believe that things like the economy and foreign policy are dictated by outside factors like the state department and the treasury. we believe that no matter what the fools on talk radio say there is really not much of a difference between one and the other. So we ALWAYS vote for the person who seems like a nicer guy/better person/more down to earth. That is why we voted clinton twice, bush twice and obama twice. these men have the type of personality we would rather hang out with/have a beer with/go out to dinner with. we simply vote for the better guy like any other popularity contest. romney seems like a fine person but he fails to connect with the average person. no so the president.

    in reply to: gedolim biographies #896646
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    why has artcroll never covered a sefaradi gadol? why have they never even published a sefaradi siddur? because it is not profitable or because artcroll actively promotes a vision of what it believes judiasm should look like and sefaradim do not fit into that vision?

    in reply to: Selichos….ooooh NOOO #896461
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    auroa: see, Genesis, 42:32

    in reply to: World Trade Center A'H #1183748
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    i was in downtown that day. i arrived between tower one and tower two. i was close enough to be able to tell the difference between the debris and the humans falling/jumping down. the humans fell much faster. i thought that after that americans will never be the same – that americans will finally wake up and realize that they are not living in the reality of this world but in a self-created bubble. i was so wrong.

    in reply to: Selichos….ooooh NOOO #896459
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    aurora: ????????? ??????, ?????? ????????,

    the differences between us is dwarfed by the awesomeness of the borey olam who brought us together and made us brothers.

    in reply to: Selichos….ooooh NOOO #896456
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    every single sefaradi that saw this post probably made a face because (1) they do it for forty days; (2) men, women and children all go and (3) they all love it and look forward all year for selichos to start.

    in reply to: What's your proof? #895558
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    frummy, if its torah shebichsav youre curious about then the first step you need to take is to find out who wrote it and under what circumstances. each book is different. for example, the circumstances under which moshe rabbeynu wrote devorim is vastly different than the circumstances under which bereishis was written which is in turn different than the circumstances under which megillas ester was written.

    i suggest you begin by learning about the circumstances under which each seyfer was written. we can then have an intelligent discussion about whether mordechai wrote under ruach hakodesh or something else and who wrote what when and how. then you need to learn the canonization process by which ezra chose which books are torah and which are not. it appears to me that you lack the basic and fundamental understanding of what the torah actually is.

    moreover, living a life as a torah jew is not really incumbent upon the literal words of the torah. it is torah shebeal peh that dictates the life of an observant jew notwithstanding anything it says in torah shebichsav. if youre questioning life as a frum jew, it is torah she beal peh you need to research not torah shebichsav.

    in reply to: Need Source for Allowing or Not Allowing Teacher to Confiscate Items #906958
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    for many years it was thought acceptable for teachers to assault the children and now it is widely accepted as criminal behavior. here too, it is now commonly understood that a school that confiscates a ipod, etc. is committing larceny. All it takes is for a couple of these teachers/principals to be led away in handcuffs like the hitting teachers were and this disgusting practice will come to an end.

    in reply to: What's your proof? #895543
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    frummy, when you say “proof” you can refer to different things. You see, there is mathematical proof, scientific proof, proof based on the preponderance of the evidence, proof beyond a reasonable doubt, circumstantial proof, historical proof, etc.

    so what kind of proof are YOU looking for?

    Furthermore, when you say “torah min hashamayim” what do you mean? that too can mean different things to different people. for some, it means that gd actually wrote or dictated the tanach, for others, gd inspired others to write it, for others still, gd sanctioning its writing after the fact. what about torah shebe’al peh? that is also min hashamayim but means different things to different people.

    in sum, your question is too vague to be answerable.

    in reply to: women working #894464
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    oomis, i completely respect your right to believe as much even though i personally do not subscribe to same. my personal belief is that it is such a core concept to toras moshe to live a happy life.

    in reply to: women working #894460
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    how about this radical and crazy idea: women should do what makes them happy. if working makes them happy and that is what they want to do then working is ideal for that woman and if staying at home and taking care of the kids is what would make a different woman happy and that is what she wants to do then that is the ideal.

    i am pretty sure that is what the Torah expects from us more than anything else.

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