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LOL @ Besalel.
Whatever religion you practice is not even SIMILAR to Judaism if you believe the things you wrote, or even if you wrote them without believing in them. Next time you are about to drink wine, pour it out please.
A source the Rebbe mentions is the pirush of the Tur on Shemos 19:6, which reads:
“ואתם תהיו לי ממלכת כהנים – אלו זכו ישראל היו כולם כהנים גדולים ולע״ל תחזור להם שנא׳ ואתם כהני ה׳ תקראו.”
CTLawyer I have not logged in here for years but now I must. Anyone who has read the fedaralist papers or has any knowledge of the political beliefs and development of the time period knows that the founders of America did not and would not consider a state organization like a national guard to be a well regulated militia. Secondly, your purposeful misreading of the Constitution is a disgusting butchery of the English language. It takes an upside down inside out person to misunderstand the words “shall not be infringed” in the way you take it, Tokugawa.
Many people wear their Shabbos jacket and pants on Motzei Shabbos or may have carried things on the way to Shul before Shabbos…
Ami used to have a lot of articles about yiddishkeit but then they turned into a magazine about Business and Politics. Much of the content cannot be read on Shabbos.
In litvish chedarim, mesivtos, and yeshivos they tell each and every boy he can be a talmid chochom. The result is many boys believe they are talmidei chachomim (admitting otherwise would mean they are failures) and they therefore hold out for the best girls even though they are hardly the best guys.
Reb Eliezer,
Yes I saw the Chasam Sofer.
The Chasam Sofer was a posek in Central Europe. I am not discrediting him at all I am just saying it is no light matter as the preeminent poskim in Eastern Europe held that it was assur.
According to the Tzemach Tzedek it is forbidden to cut the beard because it is something that distinguishes men from women.
According to the Chofetz Chaim, the community accepted a custom not to even trim the beard and communal acceptance of a custom creates a prohibition.
Even if you don’t follow the Tzemach Tzedek, who was the pre-eminent posek in Russia, the Chofetz Chayim writes clearly that in Eastern Europe Jews had a custom which has the force of halacha to not even trim the beard. Shaving is not a light matter and the fact that it is popular is no proof of anything as even being not shomer Torah and Mitzvos is CH”V popular among Jews.
Zeman tefillah is for sechar. However the halacha is that one must daven with the right mind set. Also according to Chassidus tefillah has ramifications in effecting the frumkeit of a person for the rest of the day. Therefore it is better to miss zeman tefillah but to daven a proper davening than to make zeman tefillah but for the tefillah to be improper.
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I clearly wrote that I was using data to serve an an example. I was saying that what you think is institutional racism is not what it is or how the term is used but rather it is indicative of something else. To that end I used an example statistic to demonstrate the kinds of things that could be indicative of institutional racism.
LOL you claim something doesn’t exist but you don’t even know it’s definition. The whole idea of institutional racism is that it is NOT the result of laws or overt policies.
The following statistic (disclaimer: I have not vetted the statistic I am just using it as an example of the type of data that would indicate institutional racism) is indicative of institutional racism.
Although approximately two-thirds of crack cocaine users are white or Hispanic, a large percentage of people convicted of possession of crack cocaine in federal courts in 1994 were black. In 1994, 84.5% of the defendants convicted of crack cocaine possession were black while 10.3% were white and 5.2% were Hispanic.
Learning all day is no indicator whatsoever that someone is a yorei shomayim.
Rabbi Ilan Feldman the Rov of Beth Jacob in Atlanta wears a straw hat in the summer.
Eretz Yisroel Ayno Hefer… Gevalt!
What does it mean he wasn’t accepted because of politics? Like you are persona non grata in the community?
Moshiach is always coming. That is one of the thirteen principles of faith.
Regarding the difference between voting in Israel and in the WZO see here:
“then l’havdil elef havdalos by us too we need to just hold our noses and vote.”
This is like saying that if we could gain influence by joining the Catholic church we will just have to hold our noses. Tziyonis is a type of Heresy and to be a member of the WZO you have to affirm Tziyonus.
Just a warning but it is important to vet the music. Sounding Litvish/Chassidish/Sefardishe is not raaya. I know a very chassidishe family that would never listen to music produced by goyim/not-frum and they didn’t realize the purim CD they play at their purim mesiba is really goyishe songs which were popular a decade ago with the lyrics now changed to be about purim and the instruments changed to synthesizer and clarinet.
What are simulated ice skates?
If you vote Republican you are voting for a party that worships Avoda Zara. Mamesh like a Hellenist.
Dwarf Fortess can be pretty violent though I suppose you may be less offended by the ASCII representation. However, if you read the blow by blow battle reports the violence is very detailed.
Sports Management games such as Football Manager are pretty benign and promote critical thinking as well math and budgeting.
“By accusing him of lying, you spit on R. Zwiebel and the Moetzes that he represents, just to validate your own twisted worldview.”
Someone did something publicly, they were called out for it, they then proceeded to deny it, and you think it is me and Joseph who are twisted?
Further, what is twisted about about believing in the world view propagated by our holy forebears and rabbonim ?
“If I cough near you and you think I spit at you but I didn’t and you insist I did what would that make you?”
It would make me mistaken. However, in this case I am not mistaken.
“So when R. Zwiebel clearly states:
“We have never taken a position on a two state solution”
he’s lying and you’re not, right?”
If I spit on you, and clearly state I didn’t, would it make you a liar for saying I did? The Agudah publically made a statement which in the english language means they support the political process and premise of the two state solution. The fact they won’t at least own up to it is just more sad Zionist propaganda.
“What if all nine guys in the minyan are sleeping, with the shliach tzibbur being the only awake male?”
What about if even the shliach tzibbur himself is sleeping?
The Aguda can claim whatever they like but their public statement clearly endorses the two state solution and there is no rational person who would read it any other way.
“Vacation is certainly not just a Western idea. All yeshivos have been hazmanim”
Bein Hazmanim is not vacation. Bochurim are allowed time to visit their family for YT since they are away. There is no idea that lechovid mid winter children who live by their parents should suddenly not be in cheder for a week.
“Some time off is necessary so the body can “sleep” and rejuvenate”
One hundred percent. This time is so important it takes place on a nightly basis!
You graduate from Yeshiva to move on to other responsibilities! Vacation in the western world is a time when people imagine that they are free/frei. Going to sleep is also avodas Hashem but there is no idea that you take tinokos shel beis rabban and decide that stam they shouldn’t learn today.
The Lubavitcher Rebbe actually addressed the idea that vacation is a modern western ideal and that it is not ideal. The idea that there is a break from responsibility is not a Jewish idea. When I grew up OOT when school had a break the Chabad houses had a winter camp so that children at least had a constructive environment rather than being left to their own devices.
The Rebbe Rashab and R’ Chaim Brisker’s concerns are vindicated again and again. The aforementioned did not join the Agudah because of concerns of complicity with tyizonus and because of the platform that anyone who is a part of the Agudah will have to abide by the majority decision of the Moetzes. Here we see clearly that that Agudah is complicit in Tziyonus, Minus, and plans which transgress the Torah HaKedosha and endanger the lives of Yidden. Uch un vey
“call/text only”
How is that going to help? You don’t think teenager who want to can find the other people who want to call/test inappropriate things?
“The boys should realise that girls who want to marry Bnei Torah would rather stay single than take a boy with a Smartphone.”
The Chofetz Chayim ZATZAL holds that even trimming with scissors is assur and that therefore it is preferable for a bochur to be single rather than marry a girl who wants him to shave, because someone who wants him to sin cannot be his besheret.
This conversation is like people who don’t learn math debating the merits of sublime mathematical theories. If you want to know what the Rebbe means then start learning Chabad Chassidus and become an expert in the subject matter that is the context and the substance of what The Rebbe is saying. If you are just looking for problems to justify your axe grinding there is no purpose in having a conversation with you.
” You won’t see them at a Siym Ha Shas or any other asifah where all b’nai Torah/ G’dolai Torah.”
For the record, Agudas Yisroel hardly makes up “all the gedolei hatorah” and in fact many gedolim were and are opposed to the Agudah since its inception for a variety of reasons. If they were represented by foolish chutzpadig people like you they would be saying it is you and your ilk that are chutz l’machaneh.
What does it matter if people attend your events or follow your hashkafos? Are you that self conscious that if people object to something you believe in it is the end of the world for you or you are forced to write them off?
Quit being a machriv riv. The Lubavitcher Rebbe’s statements were and are well known and despite that he enjoyed the support of many. If you want a comment on his character I suggest you look at what Reb Moshe addresses him as in his letters to him.
If there would be an issue of Maris Ayin it is sufficient to place a siman see the sugya of Basar in Almond Milk brought in the rema in 87:3. Furthermore, there are those that contend that once something becomes common enough the problem of maris ayin goes away completely.
“Rav Yonason Eibeshutz[9] extrapolates and expands on this concept even further, applying it as a general halachic rule across the board: any time that the questionable object (or action) becomes commonplace, Maris Ayin no longer applies, as it will no longer arouse suspicion[10]. The example he gives is if in a place where cooking in almond milk is the norm, then accordingly it would not be necessary to place almonds next to the pot, as the average onlooker would simply assume that one is cooking in pareve almond milk, and not real milk. Other later authorities, including the Maharsham, and Yad Yehuda[11], have echoed Rav Eibeshutz’s ruling.”
” whose reliability has been questioned in a number of other threads”
On what basis do you question the reliability of the transcript of a speech by the Frierdikker Rebbe where he says that something is already well known.
Syag- is it much different from what Milhouse wrote, “Because when the police took him home, they delivered him to the wrong address; they took him to the home of a misnaged, and he was stuck there for a few hours until his people realized what had happened and came to get him. He said he suffered more in those few hours than during his whole time in prison. So the geulah began on the 19th but was not complete until the 20th.”
Maybe he intends something I don’t detect. In any case he said he was referencing Beis Rebbi, which although it is a generally reliable source, I have not read since there are much better later sources which reference the worthwhile things from Beis Rebbi while correcting the mistakes.
Nu Nu.
In the sicha of Yud Tes Kislev 5693 (which is printed in Likutei Diburim) the Frierdikker Rebbe writes that the Alter Rebbe was released after Mincha but was mistakenly delivered to the home of a Misnaged where he was caused much more distress than his imprisonment. He adds that the Alter Rebbe was not concerned at all with his physical situation in prison which he spent in the presence of the Baal Shem Tov and Maggid.
It is bordering on an insanity that some of you seem to be incapable of understanding that a person would suffer from having the derech in Avodas Hashem of his Rebbeim mocked, and you think that expressing that is somehow lacking in “Ahavas Yisroel.”
The whole reason the Alter Rebbe was imprisoned in the first place was because of the instigation and persecution of the misnagdim, it has nothing to do with some vandetta or abuse by the Czarist Government.
“I’ve checked other threads in the coffee room, and I see that in the past there have been others more knowledgeable than me who have questioned Chabad’s “history” and who have even doubted some of the things written by one of their rebbes. So I don’t feel I’m in terrible company if I question the veracity of this story.”
I didn’t know this was a comedy thread.
It was written by R` Chaim Meir Hilman, who I believe was a Kopuster Chossid.
“And you have NO RIGHT to criticize him or second guess him.”
There are indisputable mistakes in Beis Rebbe as has been pointed out by later sources. I believe they are mentioned in either (or possibly both) the biography by Avtzon, or Mindel.
Also, the misnaged made degrading and hurtful remarks regarding the Baal Shem Tov and Maggid, his rebbeim. So he suffered much more that a yid should be mivazeh the leaders of the generation then he suffered from being imprisoned.
The Baal Shem Tov writes that the coming of Moshiach is dependent on the dissemination of Chassidus.
“But for thousands of years they did have musical instruments. And the poskim still said they don’t belong in shul. ”
This very well may be true but that is not the argument Joseph was making. Joseph’s argument is that the fact that something was not previously done is a reason it should not be presently done. It is to that notion specifically which I was responding.
“Too bad all your zeidas for thousands of years in golus never had this brainstorm of introducing musical instruments into selichos ”
For thousands of years no one used penicillin or chemotherapy
\Yeshivishrockstar, I will not even entertain your comments which are laughable. Your comment proves exactly my point.
Greymatter, regarding electing a gadol as prime minister, the medina is treyf.
Whether or not he will say he is Moshiach cannot be known one way or the other as that is not something discussed in Halachic sources. As far as your contention that he will be a Gadol who will do those things, that was exactly my whole point. A Gadol getting up and doing those things is akin to a bid for Messianic candidacy. But according to the logic of the post I was criticizing, one would not recognize the bid or claim to messianic candidacy until after the fact. Therefore, nothing would get done. A King would arise in Israel and say, let us fight the wars of Israel, and return the Holy Land, and Build the Beis Hamikdash,” and such a person would answer, “Nah, first you build the Beis Hamikdash and then I will believe you are Moshiach.”
Again it is not a knee jerk reaction. I am not accusing the people are large at not being able to recognize Moshiach when he comes, and certainly not as a result of any tainos anyone has on the Lubavitcher Rebbe.
My comment was directed to one person’s comment which smack of heresy.I do not know “all you learnt” but it sounds like you are misinformed if you believe exclusively that Bayis Shlishi will not be built by the Jewish people. The Rambam writes b’ferush and l’halacha that there is nothing supernatural about the Messianic era and that Moshiach is not required to perform any miracles or wonders. Yes there are others who differ and there may be ways to reconcile them, but that does not change that the halachic opinion of one of the preeminent rishonim and poskim in history holds that it is entirely possible that all of the Redemption will transpire in a completely natural way.