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January 26, 2021 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm in reply to: Is it good for the Jews to have a president who’s good for the Jews? #1942829
To Health: I did not purport to identify any US allies, and there is absolutely no basis for what you think I “obviously” think. Since you asked, some US allies at the present time or within the last 10 years are United Kingdom, Belgium, France, Germany, Canada, and Czech Republic. If the US wants to come to the defense of Israel, militarily or politically, it will be more effective if the US has allies.January 26, 2021 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm in reply to: Is it good for the Jews to have a president who’s good for the Jews? #1942723
To the opening poster: Your question is tautological (or, perhaps, a clever play on words). A better question would be, what does it take for a US president to be good for the Jews.
Here are some things that are not good for the Jews:
1. Stirring up anti-Semites and making them think they have the support of the US president.
2. Alienating US allies.
3. A do-nothing response to a pandemic that sickens Jews, and others, and weakens the US economy.
4. Encouraging an armed assault on the US Capitol.
5. Attempting to overthrow the results of a US election.
To lakewart: Betsy Devos was unqualified for the position of Secretary of Education. But those awful Democrats would not even consider Merrick Garland, Trump’s nominee for the US Supreme Court.
To always aks questions: Mitt Romney was caught on tape saying some ungentlemanly things about 47% of the electorate. I don’t remember exactly what he said, but I think he accused them (or us?) of being schnorrers (not his actual word) who would never vote Republican.
Re coffee addict’s comment: The billions that Obama “gave” to Iran was Iranian money over which the US had no rights. I don’t know whether that was a good or bad idea, or was or was not legally required, but it was not my or your or any US taxpayer’s money.
To Gadolhadorah: You are being too clever by half. I was asking a hypothetical question: Is it chesed by a president if he pardons someone for money? All the stuff you raise is incidental.January 21, 2021 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm in reply to: Biden condemns racism and nativism in the same sentence #1941148
To smerel, re his/her New York Times comment: The Sulzberger family is not Jewish today, and I am not sure whether they were Jewish in the 1940’s. (Actually, once a Jew, always a Jew; conversion does not change one’s soul.)
And there were radically more newspapers in the US in the 1940’s, many of them prestigious, and none of them printed more news about the Holocaust than the New York Times. Even as late as 1944, there were rabbis in Europe who did not encourage emigration from Europe because they did not understand the scope of Germany’s plans for extermination of the Jews of Europe. Roosevelt could/should have done better by the Jews, but the blame is his alone.
Trump’s loss is golden. I don’t care about the lining.
To ujm: Would your opinion that Trump showed chesed change if it were proven that he was paid for his pardons? If I practiced Trump’s epistemology, I would point to the rumors that he was paid for some (if not all) the pardons he issued. At this time, however, I have seen little proof in support of these rumors.
The Proud Boys, and lots of white supremist anti-Semitic groups, think Trump supports them. You Jews who think Trump is your friend, and those anti-Semites, cannot both be right.
Fortunately, Health, very few people think like you.
I never liked the term “Reform Jew”; it sounds too much like “reformed alcoholic”. A reform Jew might say, “Yeah, I used to be shomer shabbos, but then I reformed and drive to shul on Shabbos and then go to a diner for a ham and eggs kiddush.”
I thought this thread was about my wife.
As someone frequently accused of being a communistical socialist, or, worse, a socialistical communist communism lover, let we set some of you straight about the role of the owner of a grocery store in a free-market, and free, society. Stores have groceries because the owner contributed capital to the store to buy the groceries on the shelves, and pays the workers who put the groceries on the shelves. No owners, no groceries.
A similar example from the past: Stalin tried to eliminate farm ownership. He succeeded for a while, but then the peasants stopped growing the crops, and huge, ghastly famines resulted.
To ujm: It’s the only thing I can do during the Covid lockdown.
I call most Jews on the telephone.
ujm: Your pop-quiz answer raises a fair point. Lots of American politicians, political parties and political machines have tried, sometimes successfully, to sabotage a fair vote count. I don’t know about Lyndon Johnson, but certainly the Richard Daley machine was notorious for fudging the votes. So, what do you think we should do about it? Vote for a vote-cheater a second time, or lock her/him up?
As long as ujm brought it up, I will remind everyone of a statement attributed to Stalin. He said he supports democracy and elections, as long as he counts the votes.
Pop quiz: Who does that sound like?
1. YWN will be an important source of news for the frum community. (I am not just saying this to be sure my comment is posted.)
2. The rate of increase in ocean temperature from 2020 to 2024 will be triple the rate of 1990 – 1994.
3. Population growth of non-Jewish Israelis will prompt Israeli right wing to embrace a two-state solution for Palestinians in Gaza and most of West Bank. Palestinian leadership will reject generous proposals for independent Palestinian state.
4. UN will subsidize free ham sandwiches for all non-Christian citizens of Eretz Yisrael. Iowa Congressional delegation will support UN resolution.
5. Donald Trump will be living in undisclosed location in Russia.
To johnklets: Yes, some people will miss Trump. They demonstrated their mindless loyalty to him – not the US constitution or law or civility – by assaulting the US Capitol yesterday. Do you think yesterday’s insurrection, as Senator Mitch McConnell (Senate Republican leader) called it, is good for America? Good for Israel? Good for the Jews?
I have not heard about a proposal in the New York state legislature to put Covid-19 vaccine refusers into detention camps, except for the post by lakewhut. Detention camps (for anything other than prisons for properly prosecuted and convicted criminals) are utterly unacceptable to this Democrat, and surely many other Democrats, not to mention all democrats.
To Health: “Purtoricans”? Reely? I am fluent in only one language, but when I have to include others in stuff I write, I try to be accurate. Is a “Purtorican” a Puritan from a Caribbean island?
I can daven in Hebrew, and with plenty of practice and coaching, I read from the Torah at the time I became a Bar Mitzvah (when dinosaurs ruled the Earth), but beyond that, English is my only current language. I was pretty good at Latin in high school, and I could read the Latin on some of the public monuments and ancient structures when I visited Rome recently. I would be curious to know your first, second and third languages.
To Reb Eliezer: Of what is NPD an abbreviation? (And, yes, that is the proper way to say or write my question.)
Black anti-Semitism is as real as Russian, Polish, Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, Austrian, Deutchlander, Dutch, French, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish Catholic, Irish Protestant, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Iranian, Arab, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Senhalese, Klopstockian and … all other anti-Semitism. I’m not sure who invented it – it probably existed before these various national groups existed.
Don’t take charlieha’s advice. Always hide your yarmulke when you participate in racist rallies. That way, your fellow racists won’t beat you up.
To Syag Lchochm: I thought it was well established that there are people – generally businesses, trade associations, politicians and political groups – who are paid for posts in support of a particular point of view. I think that in some cases, the payers also write the posts, and in other cases, the paid posters write the posts. The paid posters are sometimes called “influencers,” and are paid for their posts, and also paid for the number of followers they have.
As for my being scary enough to make them stop? Well, not without a picture of my face.
To MadeAliyah: Your comment implies that the average Israeli is no different than Huey, Dewey and Louie, three cartoon ducks.
To coffee addict: I am “not picking” on ujm. I have asked him/her, many times, in many places, whether he/she is paid for the posts. My reference to his/her 2 posts here was to point out that he/she has not answered my question.
I have asked the same question of certain other posters, at least one of whom stopped posting after my repeated inquiries, though I do not know whether my inquiries had anything to do with his/her cessation of posting.
To Curiosity: Jews have been punched in the face for 3,000 years. I don’t know exactly what we are doing, but it is working. So, calm down and find something else to rant about. Or kill some cats.
To Health: Your Google research establishes that Rivera committed many horrible crimes, was unrepentant at the time of his convictions, and was considered unrepentant by the family of one of his victims. That would make his original sentence – I think it was 45 years – reasonable (or too light, in my opinion). I knew all that when I commented on his pardon.
But we do not know how he behaved (or did not behave) in prison or any other reason why he was pardoned, but we do know it came after he got old, and after he served 36 years. That’s why I do not believe that his pardon was inappropriate.
Someone said, facetiously, poor Jeffrey Epstein, if he just hung on (pun intended?) for another year, Trump would have pardoned him. I am not sure Trump would have pardoned Epstein, but neither am sure Trump would not have.
Folks, there are 63 posts, and only one – by common saychel – answers my question. It’s not a hard question. Please focus.
1. I’m not lazy with a capital L. I’m lazy with a small L. Google the English rules for capitalization.
2. Googling alone is not research. I knew everything you told me when I talked about the pardon of Rivera, because I googled it. He did horrible things and served 36 years in prison for it. I would not have pardoned him, but that is a matter over which reasonable people (of which I am one, but I am, frankly, not sure about you) can differ.
3. I do not have any idols. It is horrible for one Jew to accuse another Jew of idolitry.
4. What is the basis of your calling Rivera “unrepentant”? I do not know whether or not he ever repented for his murders or other felonies.
To ujm: Thank you for your answer. Is it the complete answer? In particular, are you paid any money, directly or indirectly?
To emes nisht sheker: The Republicans never oppose deficits when the president is a Republican, going back to Reagan, if not further back, to Nixon and Ike.
To ujm: You posted twice. Are you being paid for your posts?
I don’t think Trump is mentally deranged or ill in any medical or psychological sense. I think he is simply an awful human being, and there is no way to change that, other than by his having a change of heart, which I do not expect, even if he lives another 20 years.
I am a Trump hater. I am not a hater of anything but Trump (and coconut), and when he leaves office – in 22 days, you can bet the farm on that – my concern about Trump will be greatly reduced. He will still be an incompetent nitwit, a malicious misogynist and racist, and a liar, but his power over the US and the rest of the world will be greatly reduced. I worry about his lasting effects, if any, on US politics, but I do not have free-floating hatred that needs to be focused on something.
What are democRAT haters going to do when Biden and Harris take office – in 22 days? Is there any chance they will stop misusing capital letters?
To ujm: You have not replied to my question, which I have asked a number of times: Are you being paid, directly or indirectly, for any of your posts?
To Health: As I said, I am tired and lazy. I am not familiar with all the circumstances surrounding the Oscar Lopez Rivera pardon. You can do the research, if you are interested, and form your own opinion. Actually, you can form your opinion without doing any research or having a reliable set of facts; that seems to be what you usually do.
To Health: No, I did not say any terrorists gets out of jail when he hits age 60. I am too tired, or lazy, to explain the typical process followed and the reasons for granting pardons. I am not even sure that it was followed in the case of Oscar Lopez Rivera. But you probably know the process, and the reasons, but will deny that they are appropriate and will insist, correctly, that they lack the force of law.
But what is clear to anyone willing to see it is that Trump’s use of the pardon power is the promotion of his lawless supporters, not sympathy or forgiveness or chesed.
Oscar Lopez Rivera served 36 years in prison, and his sentence was commuted when he was more than 60 years old. I have no problem with any of Trump’s pardons if the pardonees have served half their time and are older than 50. But that does not address my question, folks. Would you Trump voters have voted differently if you had known about Trump’s post- election before the election? Would you want President Biden exercising his pardon power after he loses the election in 2024? If he pardons Hunter?
And, ujm, are you being paid for your posts?
To ujm: Are you being paid for your posts?December 28, 2020 9:35 am at 9:35 am in reply to: The Trump Vaccine for the Chinavirus Developed via Operation Warp Speed #1932646
To ujm: Are you being paid, directly or indirectly, for your posts?December 28, 2020 9:35 am at 9:35 am in reply to: The Trump Vaccine for the Chinavirus Developed via Operation Warp Speed #1932648
I read on the internet (so it must be true) that Trump’s picture is being painted on the building where Clorox is made.
I am thrilled and delighted that my opening post has prompted such an enlightened, informed discussion of the US presidential power of pardon. Probably the greatest contribution to this discussion was from Pekak – read it for yourself, as it defies summarization.
But I (the opening poster) asked a much narrower question, which I further narrowed in my second post: Among those of you who voted for Trump, would you have voted for him if you knew about the pardons he issued for his machitin, his campaign staff, those Congressmen convicted of insider trading and others he announced after the election? And my original question was, should the president be allowed to issue pardons after he can no longer run for office?
This thread reminds me of the joke about how annoying it would be if Jonas Salk’s mother were a neighbor. “So, Estelle, did I tell you about my son Jonas. HE FOUND THE CURE FOR POLIO. So quit telling me about your son the surgeon making all that money in Great Neck.”December 24, 2020 11:12 am at 11:12 am in reply to: President Donald J. Trump: A Modern Day Alexander the Great #1931653
Maybe we should equate Trump with Alexander the Grape, because Trump wines so much.
And speaking of Trump wines, remember Trump vodka? Why would a teetotaler think his name on a distilled spirit would be a sound business plan? Then again, what does Trump know about sound business plans?
To MadeAliyah: Permit me to answer the question you posed. Yes, supporting Bill Clinton opposes some moral values. I voted for him in 1992, and for Bob Dole in 1996. Some of us put a high value on high values.
But now it’s morning in America, by which I am referring only to the clock. It’s afternoon in Europe, evening in Asia, and 10th of Tevet in Australia, where many restaurants a closed, making it easier to fast. Trump has issued a bunch of pardons that he did not announce before the election. For you Trump voters, would any of his pardons have changed your vote?
Folks, I did not ask about the pardon power in general. My focus is on prohibiting pardons for a short period around presidential elections, which would force an incumbent president to disclose his pardon intentions before he/she stands for re-election. Come on, people, focus.
To Yserbius: Don’t forget where the government gets its dimes.
I would prefer relief that only goes to those who have no or low income or very limited savings, but in a democracy, imperfect bargains are part of government.
As for Trump’s threatened veto, it is too little and way too late, and part of his scorched-earth tantrumitous exit plan.